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lpetrich
02 Apr 2009, 11:57 AM
The endosymbiotic origin of mitochondria and chloroplasts ought to need no introduction for many of this forum's readers, but there is some interesting research that suggests further such contributions to early eukaryotic organisms. There is some evidence of additional eubacterial contributions to the eukaryotic genome (Hedges et al 2001), and there is evidence that the eukaryotic informational systems are derived from some archaebacterial ancestor, a circumstance which has provoked the "hydrogen hypothesis" (Martin et al, 1998). In it, some archaebacterium took up residence inside of a eubacterium, and consumed the hydrogen that the eubacterium's metabolism produced. Unlike mitochondria and chloroplasts, it took over the genome.

But an even more dramatic hypothesis has been proposed by Hartman and Fedorov. They have discovered some eukaryotic proteins that have no clear homology with known eubacterial or archaebacterial proteins; they call these proteins "Eukaryotic Signature Proteins". These include proteins like calmodulins associated with such eukaryote-specific mechanisms as a calcium-utilizing internal-signaling system.

They propose that the eukaryotic cytoplasm was once an independent organism, which they have named the "chronocyte", in honor of Kronos, from Greek mythology, who swallowed his children. This organism had had those eukaryote-specific mechanisms, an internal-membrane system, a cytoskeleton, and the ability to practice phagocytosis, which enabled it to acquire endosymbionts.

Hartman and Fedorov go further to propose that the chronocyte had had a RNA genome, and that it had had several RNA-world features like RNA splicing; this RNA-world-preservation hypothesis is also supported in Poole et al. 1998. This genome was partly preserved in the chronocyte's first endosymbiont, an archaebacterium that became the nucleus, and those RNA-world features were preserved with it.

The chronocyte hypothesis requires that proteins came before DNA, a view supported by Davis 2002. That paper examined 10 proteins, and dated their ancestral sequences by the metabolic complexity involved in biosynthesis of their amino acids:

Ferredoxin (Fe-S protein; does redox reactions)
Proteolipid h1 (lives in cell membranes; part of ATPase complex)
FtsZ (involved in prokaryotic-cell division)
FEN-1 (flap exonuclease)
RNA polymerase beta'
Reverse transcriptase (RNA -> DNA)
DNA topoisomerase I (alters DNA topology)
Ribonucleotide reductase (Fe) (RNR's make DNA nucleotides from RNA ones)


DNA use was clearly a latecomer, meaning that RNA-protein organisms could have existed -- and the chronocyte was a RNA-protein organism.

Here is an approximate chronology:


RNA world
RNA-protein organisms. Chronocyte and prokaryote ancestors part ways
Prokaryote ancestor acquires DNA genome
Prokaryote ancestor produces eubacterium and archaebacterium ancestors
Chronocyte develops signaling system, membranes, and phagocytosis
Chronocyte "eats" an archaebacterium, which becomes the nucleus
Early eukaryotes eat or otherwise absorb various eubacterial genes
One of them "eats" an alpha-proteobacterium, which becomes the mitochondrion
One of them also "eats" a cyanobacterium, which becomes the chloroplast
Some of them "eat" chloroplast-containing one-celled eukaryotes, sometimes more than once in sequence



References:

The origin of the eukaryotic cell: A genomic investigation (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/032658599v1), Hyman Hartman, and Alexei Fedorov, 2002
A genomic timescale for the origin of eukaryotes (http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/1/4), S Blair Hedges, Hsiong Chen, Sudhir Kumar, Daniel Y-C Wang, Amanda S Thompson, and Hidemi Watanabe, 2001
The hydrogen hypothesis for the first eukaryote (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9510246), Martin W, Muller M, 1998
The path from the RNA world (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9419221), Poole AM, Jeffares DC, Penny D, 1998
Molecular evolution before the origin of species (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:/pubmed/12225777), Brian Davis, 2002


The "hydrogen hypothesis" states that the eukaryotic cell arose from the symbiosis of a eubacterium and an archaebacterium. The eubacterium would produce hydrogen as a result of its metabolism, which the archaebacterium would then consume and combine with oxygen, making methane and water:

4H2 + CO2 -> 2H2O + CH4

The chronocyte hypothesis can easily include the hydrogen hypothesis, it must be said.


The paper "A genomic timescale for the origin of eukaryotes" proposes this scenario:

About 4 billion years ago, the big prokaryote divergence happened, between Eubacteria and Archaea; not long afterward, the ancestor of the eukaryotes diverged from the Archaea.

About 2.7 billion years ago, the first eukaryote endosymbiosis took place, with some early Gram-negative eubacterium; only some genes remain.

About 2.5 billion years ago, O2-releasing cyanobacteria emerged, adding oxygen to the Earth's atmosphere (<1% to >15%), consuming carbon dioxide, and oxidizing methane -- the reduction in the latter two greenhouse gases caused a big ice age at around 2.2-2.4 billion years ago.

Around the time of that ice age, the ancestors of Giardia lamblia diverged. This protist has no mitochondria, but the discovery of mitochondrion-like genes has suggested the possibility of secondary loss -- some of its ancestors had them, then lost them. This paper proposes that these genes were instead from an earlier endosymbiosis, and that Giardia had never had mitochondria. Expect the "never had them" vs. "lost them" controversy to continue.

About 1.8 billion years ago, some protist acquired Rickettsia-like alpha-proteobacteria, with this endosymbiosis producing mitochondria. Rickettsia bacteria like to live inside of cells, suggesting that they are part of the way there. And mitochondrial genes can be distinguished as late arrivals that are close to Rickettsia, rather than early arrivals that branch off lower in the bacterial-relative family tree, as that paper shows.

Some later one acquired cyanobacteria, making chloroplasts and other plastids; this process would sometimes be repeated, with some protist turning a photosynthetic protist into an endosymbiont.

DMB
02 Apr 2009, 01:56 PM
Quite fascinating. Does anyone thing that the path from abiogenesis to eukaryotes will ever be fully filled out with no real controversy left?

dancer_rnb
02 Apr 2009, 02:42 PM
I doubt it. It happened too long ago. All that can be done is reduce the possibilities by what we can observe now.

lpetrich
02 Apr 2009, 06:13 PM
I'll try to guess at the prospects of doing so, step by step.

The primordial soup is IMO more likely a primordial pizza, residing on rock surfaces and inside cracks and amidst sediment grains. Prebiotic molecules can stick to them and make them react, meaning that those surfaces can bring them together and act as catalysts. Günter Wächtershäuser has proposed an interesting iron-sulfur world theory based on that, in which a reductive version of the Krebs cycle had been prebiotic. And some metabolic enzymes continue to have iron-sulfur reaction sites, like the electron-transfer enzyme ferredoxin. So the prebiotic and iron-sulfur worlds likely produced several vestigial features.

But going from the prebiotic/iron-sulfur world to the RNA world may be difficult to reconstruct, and I have not seen much by way of proposed vestigial features of that transition.

However, there are several features that are likely vestigial features of the RNA world, which makes one more confident that there had been a RNA world.

Reconstruction gets easier after the development of proteins, after the split between ancestral Bacteria (eubacteria) and Archaea (archaebacteria), and especially after the proliferation of their descendants. To date, hundreds of prokaryote genomes have been sequenced, which have reasonably-good coverage of their family trees.


However, working out the emergence of eukaryotes is hampered by the much poorer coverage of eukaryote genome-sequencing efforts. Some of the major groups of eukaryotes have had very little large-scale gene sequencing done of their members, meaning that we don't know for sure in some cases what is ancestral and what is a typical feature of the better-studied groups.

What's worse, nearly a decade ago, overall eukaryote phylogeny had to be rather heavily revised because it was discovered that long-branch attraction was creating odd artifacts. For instance, from ribosomal-RNA trees, microsporidians first seemed like early branchers, but examining proteins showed that they are most likely a one-celled fungus, like yeast.

But a new consensus has been emerging, and here's an outline:

Opisthokonta - animals, fungi, ...
Amoebozoa - amoebas, slime molds
Archaeplastida - green algae / plants, red algae, glaucophytes
Chromalveolata - stramenopiles (golden/brown algae, ...), ciliates, apicomplexans, ...
Rhizaria - cercomonads, foraminiferans, radiolarians
Excavata - euglenozoans, diplomonads, parabasalids, ...

Efforts like Phylogenomic analyses support the monophyly of Excavata and resolve relationships among eukaryotic “supergroups” (http://www.pnas.org/content/106/10/3859.abstract) suggest some further grouping:

Unikonta: Opisthokonta, Amoebozoa
Archaeplastida, Chromalveolata, Rhizaria
Excavata


Nearly all of the eukaryotic genome sequencing has been done on members of Opisthokonta, with only scattered efforts elsewhere.

VoxRat
02 Apr 2009, 11:18 PM
This is really interesting. I have a lot of reading to do.
According to the "approximate chronology", the "chronocyte" was still an RNA genome beastie until it endosymbiosed (ate) the prokaryotic ancestor of the nucleus.

I'm skeptical, of course. But I'll have to do some reading before I can articulate specific doubts.

nygreenguy
05 Apr 2009, 03:39 PM
Hmm...the minimal life unit is the cell. Without a membrane, can this organism be called a cell, and therefore is it a life?

lpetrich
06 Apr 2009, 12:24 PM
Hmm...the minimal life unit is the cell. Without a membrane, can this organism be called a cell, and therefore is it a life?
I don't get the connection. What in my discussion are you referring to?

nygreenguy
06 Apr 2009, 09:52 PM
Hmm...the minimal life unit is the cell. Without a membrane, can this organism be called a cell, and therefore is it a life?
I don't get the connection. What in my discussion are you referring to?

They propose that the eukaryotic cytoplasm was once an independent organism, which they have named the "chronocyte", in honor of Kronos, from Greek mythology, who swallowed his children. This organism had had those eukaryote-specific mechanisms, an internal-membrane system, a cytoskeleton, and the ability to practice phagocytosis, which enabled it to acquire endosymbionts.


This!

Steviepinhead
06 Apr 2009, 11:50 PM
Hmm...the minimal life unit is the cell. Without a membrane, can this organism be called a cell, and therefore is it a life?
I don't get the connection. What in my discussion are you referring to?

They propose that the eukaryotic cytoplasm was once an independent organism, which they have named the "chronocyte", in honor of Kronos, from Greek mythology, who swallowed his children. This organism had had those eukaryote-specific mechanisms, an internal-membrane system, a cytoskeleton, and the ability to practice phagocytosis, which enabled it to acquire endosymbionts.


This!
But what about "once an independent organism" suggests that the chronocyte lacked a cellular membrane?

nygreenguy
07 Apr 2009, 01:23 AM
I don't get the connection. What in my discussion are you referring to?

They propose that the eukaryotic cytoplasm was once an independent organism, which they have named the "chronometer", in honor of Kronos, from Greek mythology, who swallowed his children. This organism had had those eukaryote-specific mechanisms, an internal-membrane system, a cytoskeleton, and the ability to practice phagocytosis, which enabled it to acquire endosymbionts.


This!
But what about "once an independent organism" suggests that the chronocyte lacked a cellular membrane?

Well, it says "eukaryotic cytoplasm" was independent. Well, without cytoplasm, I dont think you can really have a cell. It seems to me to just be a poorly written article. Every other article I read about this calls it a cell, as opposed to "eukaryotic cytoplasm"

lpetrich
07 Apr 2009, 03:28 AM
According to the hypothesis, the eukaryotic cytoplasm once had its own genome, likely an RNA one, and was essentially a self-contained cell.

nygreenguy
07 Apr 2009, 11:39 AM
According to the hypothesis, the eukaryotic cytoplasm once had its own genome, likely an RNA one, and was essentially a self-contained cell.

I know that, but from reading your post, it doesnt make it sound like a cell, it makes it sound like it was an organism with everything but a membrane.

VoxRat
07 Apr 2009, 01:49 PM
According to the hypothesis, the eukaryotic cytoplasm once had its own genome, likely an RNA one, and was essentially a self-contained cell.

I know that, but from reading your post, it doesnt make it sound like a cell, it makes it sound like it was an organism with everything but a membrane.I assume that THEY'RE assuming a membrane. I.e. that there was some kind of cell that was the ancestor of most of the cytoplasmic components, and IT "ate" the ancestor of the nucleus, and mitochondria.

Some people have speculated that something like the mimivirus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimivirus) might have been the ancestor of the nucleus.

lpetrich
08 Apr 2009, 02:49 PM
That begs the question of the origin of such a virus. How would it have started using DNA? And DNA biosynthesis and handling would have been a lot of baggage for an organism parasitic on others' replication and biosynthesis capabilities.

I've seen two main theories for the origin of viruses, each of which may be true for some viruses:

Degenerate cellular organisms
Transposable elements

About the first, parasitic organisms often lose a lot of features that their free-living ancestors had had. Some organisms, like Rickettsia, are intracellular parasites, living inside of cells, and it may not be a big step for them to become dependent on their hosts for genome replication and protein synthesis, thus turning them into viruses.

And about the second, some transposable elements build structures for injecting themselves into other organisms. If one of them breaks loose with the element inside, it is hard to distinguish it from a virus.

Codec
08 Apr 2009, 03:31 PM
I'm not sure what this means. The way I understand cytoplasm is "the stuff inside the cell". As such its not really a tangible thing to talk about.

The cytoplasm is the part of a cell that is enclosed within the plasma membrane.

it would make more sense to talk about organelles, such as maybe the endoplasmic reticulum. The nuclear membrane is thought to be a candidate for being stolen from elsewhere, and its pretty well accept mitochondria and chloroplasts are too.

premjan
08 Apr 2009, 10:01 PM
Cytoplasm indicates non-nucleus in this discussion.

lpetrich
09 Apr 2009, 01:29 AM
premjan, that's what I meant.

I've decided to check on how much sequencing there has been of various groups, to see how much coverage we have.

Properties of Eukaryotic Genome Sequencing Projects (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genomes/leuks.cgi) from PubMed
Genomes Online Database (http://www.genomesonline.org/), a.k.a. GOLD
International Sequencing Consortium (http://www.intlgenome.org/)
Approved Sequencing Targets (http://www.genome.gov/page.cfm?pageID=10002154) of the National Human Genome Research Institute
DOE Joint Genome Institute (http://www.jgi.doe.gov/)


Most of the sequencing efforts have been in Opisthokonta (animals, fungi), but there has been some in most of the other groups:

Amoebozoa

Archaeplastida (land plants, green algae, red algae)

Chromalveolata (alveolates, stramenopiles, haptophytes)

Rhizaria (Paulinella chromatophora endosymbiont)

Excavata (euglenozoans, heteroloboseans, diplomonads)

and an oddball, Amastigomonas sp. (Apusozoa).

I found more than I expected of Chromalveolata and Excavata, and even a bit more of Amoebozoa, because they include several parasitic species like the malaria bug Plamodium. However, I found no Rhizaria nuclear genomes.

But that may be enough to start on reconstructing the ancestral eukaryote genome.

Barbarian
15 Apr 2009, 01:18 PM
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About 4 billion years ago, the big prokaryote divergence happened, between Eubacteria and Archaea; not long afterward, the ancestor of the eukaryotes diverged from the Archaea.
...4 billion years ago? I had to go and check that this number is not a typo. Well, if it is, it is a typo in the article as well. But still: four billion years ago? Two hundred million years before the big bombardment phase? That's somewhat more than impressive.

[sci-fi mode]If terrestrial life really originated on Mars, as some posit, this split could also have happened back there. Stand by for finding the same branches plus some more among Martian microbes[/sci-fi mode] (conditional upon finding any Martian microbes, of course).

lpetrich
15 Apr 2009, 06:51 PM
4 billion years ago? I had to go and check that this number is not a typo. Well, if it is, it is a typo in the article as well. But still: four billion years ago? Two hundred million years before the big bombardment phase? That's somewhat more than impressive.
The authors of A genomic timescale for the origin of eukaryotes (http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/1/4) never discussed the question of the Late Heavy Bombardment.

However, the uncertainties in their age estimates are large enough for the archaebacteria-eubacteria split to be younger than the end of that bombardment, about 3.8 billion years ago.