Vermont 4th state to enact gay marriage

[Goodchild]

Vermont on Tuesday became the fourth state to legalize gay marriage — and the first to do so with a legislature's vote.

The House recorded a dramatic 100-49 vote, the minimum needed, to override Gov. Jim Douglas' veto. Its vote followed a much easier override vote in the Senate, which rebuffed the Republican governor with a vote of 23-5.

Vermont was the first state to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples and joins Connecticut, Massachusetts and Iowa in giving gays the right to marry. Their approval of gay marriage came from the courts.

Tuesday morning's legislative action came less than a day after Douglas issued a veto message saying the bill would not improve the lot of gay and lesbian couples because it still would not provide them rights under federal and other states' laws.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/gay_marriage_vermont

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/7/717426/-Breaking:-Vermont-passes-gay-marriage,-legislature-overrides-Governors-veto

And it was the first to do so through the legislature, on a veto override, rather than through the courts :)

[Christina]

I am so ashamed of my state sometimes :(

[Anne]

there's hope.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1857980,00.html

[Goodchild]

I am so ashamed of my state sometimes :(

Which one is yours, California?

Don't feel bad anyway, here in Arkansas last year we passed a stupid amendment to make sure that gay couples couldn't adopt.

Because kids are better off in orphanages than being exposed to teh ghey. :(

[Christina]

there's hope.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1857980,00.html

I sure hope they can find a legal loophole because I'm not optimistic about the vote changing given how the demographics of our state are skewing us more heavily toward Catholicism . It might be different if it wasn't on the same ballot as a major election, though.

I think that what made it so depressing for me here is that they had that civil right already and people voted to have it taken away from them again. We actually voted to single out a group and take away their civil rights. For some reason that angers me more than never giving it to them in the first place would have. It feels like a more arrogant and assertive form of bigotry to me.

[Steviepinhead]

Good for Vermont.

And bleh to my birth state of California (though I still think there's hope that the Cal Supremes will overturn the election results...).

[epepke]

Good on them.

Is it time to rewrite Moonlight on Vermont?

[Worldtraveller]

Is it too early to start playing "And the walls come tumbling down." ? :D

[Goodchild]

More news today! Governor Paterson in NY is re-introducing same-sex marriage legislation today. The article states that it might still be short a few votes of passage, but with the events of the last week in Iowa and Vermont who knows what could happen?

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/08/paterson-marriage/

[BioBeing]

There was a lady on the TV last night (think it was Hardball) from something like Americans For Families or some other silly group (I was only half watching, as I was making gumbo at the time). She was trying to say that allowing gays to get married would have real impacts on her heterosexual marriage. Something about schools would have to teach that it was OK for gays to marry upsetting her poor innocent children. Basically, saying that she wanted to be able to keep her children indoctrinated into her own bigotry or something... it was very sad watching her try to justify her small mind.

[Zygote]

I heard an interview on NPR today that had a woman from NOM (National Organization for Marriage) where she claimed that her rights were being infringed because her son was being taught in Massachusetts schools that gay marriage was okay.

I hadn't realized that raising a bigoted child was a protected right.

They played a clip of one of their ads and the word "afraid" popped up in the first 5 seconds. After that it was just people making vague claims that gay marriage would cause them or their church or whatever to lose their civil rights. It was all very vague and used all the liberal-chameleon buzz words. Nasty.

[Goodchild]

They played a clip of one of their ads and the word "afraid" popped up in the first 5 seconds. After that it was just people making vague claims that gay marriage would cause them or their church or whatever to lose their civil rights. It was all very vague and used all the liberal-chameleon buzz words. Nasty.

Turns out they used actors for that ad. The audition tapes somehow got in the possession of the press and have been put out on the internet today.

So when their actors say "I'm a teacher who blah blah blah" in the ad you can rest assured that they're full of shit :)

eta - Here you go, a link to the article with clips of the auditions: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/9/718124/-Real-People-Revealed