"I am" is the Beginning of Philosophical Suicide

[Blueskyboris]

The idea that the I exists as a limited quantity with a limited number of qualities is nonsense. The I exists as a complex in a universe of change. The I is continually changing as the isness of the universe enters the I as sensory impressions. Yes, there are biological attributes of the I that are immutable from our limited perspectives, but these attributes do not define the I, they only define the body of the I. The I is that part of the body of the I that can not be limited. It is that part of the universe that is defined by the universe and the same part that defines the universe with its lack of definition. It is a hole that defines. This hole is not free will. Free will is a not a hole. This is the isness of the I as a hole, The Hole of Biology.

You are a hole. I am a hole. But the absolutist language "am", which means exist, can not be used to communicate our holeness.

You hole. I hole.

[davidpbrown]

That hole is a set of stupidities, in the physical world runs by set rules. The corruption of the physical laws determine stupidity.

Those stupidities to a large extent define a lot of what we are but equally give us our freedom. Understanding stupidity allows us to avoid mistakes and interact with the world. There is potentially something beyond just being a reflection of the hole but it's hard to define that when so much of what we are is a simple reflection of the world we live in.

[David B]

Hi Boris:)

I was wondering why you haven't been around recently. Busy philosophising?

David

[Monad]

"I am" is the Beginning of Philosophical Suicide

You think? :)

[Paul1]

Science would suggest we evolved the ability of consciousness and deictic pronoun recognition as it aided our survival. On that basis, no hole exists, we are constituent parts of a bigger system. The only correct argument is "Exists!"

[Blueskyboris]

Hi Boris:)

I was wondering why you haven't been around recently. Busy philosophising?

David Saturation combined with the demands of a couple of new projects of mine.

[mood2]

i think i understood this part = I change as I experience stuff

The idea that the I exists as a limited quantity with a limited number of qualities is nonsense. The I exists as a complex in a universe of change. The I is continually changing as the isness of the universe enters the I as sensory impressions. Yes, there are biological attributes of the I that are immutable from our limited perspectives, but these attributes do not define the I, they only define the body of the I.

then you lost me, why are we holes instead of constituent parts like paul says?

[Rie]

I was thinking about this the other day. I concluded that if I pinch myself it hurts so my body exists. As for the metaphysical side of me, basically it comes down more to I am therefore I think.

Death is an absolute mystery and before birth where were we wandering?

I am unique. And the Universe is incomprehensibly vast and mysterious. This is all I know.

[GenesisNemesis]

I don't understand this notion of "philosophical suicide", surely it is not a logical conclusion from anything but instead a subjective response?