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Oolon Colluphid
26 Feb 2009, 02:50 PM
Thanks to a bit in today's Nature, I've just heard that there's an upcoming movie about Darwin and his relationship with his wife Emma. It's called Creation, and stars Paul Bettany:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v457/n7233/images/4571087b-i2.0.jpg

IMDB's summary:
What happens when a world-renowned scientist, crushed by the loss of his eldest daughter, conceives a book which will prove the non-existence of God. This is the story of Charles Darwin and his master-work "The Origin of Species". It tells of a global revolution played out the confines of a small English village; a passionate marriage torn apart by the most dangerous idea in history; and a theory saved from extinction by the logic of a child.
IMDB has 25 September as its release date.

From the Nature mini interview with Bettany (who is an atheist (http://www.pr-inside.com/bettany-the-non-believer-r4665.htm), btw):

Was it difficult playing such a famous man?

It was a real honour and horribly frightening in equal measure. Often when I prepare I must scratch around for research, but with Darwin there is almost too much material. He was such a prolific writer and there has been so much written about him that no matter how much I read, I felt that I hadn't done enough.

Did your experience of playing the ship's surgeon in the 2003 film Master and Commander help you?

I found it really useful having spent time in the Galapagos Islands making that earlier movie. I was able to draw on a real place in my memory. Creation is set during the writing of On the Origin of Species 20 years after Darwin returned from the Galapagos. The film is about his procrastination and the reasons for it — his inability to write, it making him sick, the death of his daughter, the effect that had on his relationship with his wife, and their different means of dealing with it.

Scientists are often portrayed as being emotionless, so how did you draw out his intense grief following his daughter Annie's death?

People say he looked at his children like they were projects. But I think that this was a sign of the utmost love and respect. Science was his life. So of course he was going to involve his family. For him, science was an act of love, and study was an act of love. I don't think that science is a dry, dusty thing for scientists.

I see from IMDB that the working title was Annie's Box and that Randall Keynes is listed as a writer, so it's undoubtedly based on Keynes's book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Annies-Box-Charles-Daughter-Evolution/dp/1841150606). Has anyone read it?

Something to look forward to!

DMB
27 Feb 2009, 10:55 PM
Back in the 1970s, there was a wonderful TV series called The Voyage of Charles Darwin. It starred Malcolm Stoddard, who even looked like Darwin, with his deeply set eyes. I have been hoping for ages that it would be available on DVD. I am getting it one disc at a time from the NSS. It seems to have been published in Oz, and some NSS member has been copying it to make European format DVDs.

Mediancat
28 Feb 2009, 01:16 PM
Sounds cool. I predict that if it is favorably reviewed, then the people or backed or thought well of "Expelled" will use that as "proof" that the media is biased against them.

Rob

Lisa0315
28 Feb 2009, 02:02 PM
(lulz on) Darwin was an asshole with a 3 inch penis. (lulz off)

lpetrich
04 Mar 2009, 10:19 PM
That IMDB blurb got it all wrong. He did not claim to have proof of the nonexistence of God; he showed that a certain well-known theological argument is a non sequitur.

What the death of his daughter did was convince him that there was no beneficient Providence, though he apparently did not rule out a distant deist sort of god. It was something separate from his work on evolution.

BigEvil
13 Jun 2009, 12:16 AM
The trailer looks interesting, its located here. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/5505963/Creation-the-movie-world-exclusive-trailer.html#)

The official movie website is here (http://creationthemovie.com/the_film/).

Excerpt from website:

Part ghost story, part psychological thriller, part heart-wrenching love story CREATION is the story of Charles Darwin and the single most explosive idea in history. Darwin’s great, still controversial, book The Origin of Species depicts nature as a battleground. In CREATION the battleground is a man’s heart.

Torn between his love for his deeply religious wife and his own growing belief in a world where God has no place, Darwin finds himself caught in a struggle between faith and reason, love and truth. This is not the grey-bearded old man that most people imagine when they think of Darwin.

The Darwin we meet in CREATION is a young, vibrant father, husband and friend whose mental and physical health gradually buckles under the weight of guilt and grief for a lost child. Ultimately it is the ghost of Annie, his adored 10 year-old daughter who leads him out of darkness and helps him reconnect with his wife and family. Only then is he able to create the book that changed the world.


Paul Bettany stars as Darwin and Jennifer Connelly as his wife. Toby Jones is Huxley.

The film is based on the book ‘Annie’s Box:: Darwin, His Daughter, and Human Evolution’ by British conservationist and author and a great-great-grandson of Charles Darwin, Randal Keynes.

DMB
13 Jun 2009, 06:49 AM
I'm a bit sceptical because I thnk it will end up with a typically simplistic movie treatment. I have always thought that although Annie's death was undoubtedly important in Darwin's evolution. there were other intellectual reasons for his gradual abandonment of religion.

I imagine that Paul Bettany got the job as a result of his appearance as Stephen Maturin in Master and Commander. It would be the way movie makers operate. I'm glad to see him getting an interesting starring role, though. He seems to play a lot of sidekicks, to say nothing of weirdos like Silas in The Da Vinci Code.

BigEvil
13 Jun 2009, 10:52 AM
I'm a bit sceptical because I thnk it will end up with a typically simplistic movie treatment. I have always thought that although Annie's death was undoubtedly important in Darwin's evolution. there were other intellectual reasons for his gradual abandonment of religion.


Movies are notorious with playing fast and loose with histories and biographies. I wouldn't hold my breath for it to be without a few things thrown in for dramatic effect. When I was a kid, I thought all historical movies were suppose to be accurate (I was so innocent). Now, if the movie is entertaining and not completely inaccurate, I am satisfied.

Berthold
13 Jun 2009, 11:30 AM
As long as he is not shown receiving a blessing by Gregor Mendel...

Notta
14 Jun 2009, 12:43 AM
I've heard there's a upbeat ending: Darwin recants on his deathbed.......

Eudaimonist
14 Jun 2009, 08:43 AM
It stars Jennifer Connelly? I'm seeing it.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Ray Moscow
15 Jun 2009, 10:25 AM
I'm a bit sceptical because I thnk it will end up with a typically simplistic movie treatment. I have always thought that although Annie's death was undoubtedly important in Darwin's evolution. there were other intellectual reasons for his gradual abandonment of religion.

I imagine that Paul Bettany got the job as a result of his appearance as Stephen Maturin in Master and Commander. It would be the way movie makers operate. I'm glad to see him getting an interesting starring role, though. He seems to play a lot of sidekicks, to say nothing of weirdos like Silas in The Da Vinci Code.

He played Chaucer in A Knight's Tale.

(He's a great actor, though.)

Late_Cretaceous
14 Jul 2009, 11:00 PM
This one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCYafqq9ljk)should be worth seeing, if only for the fact that Jennifer Connelly stars in it.

willynilly
14 Jul 2009, 11:08 PM
Cast is fantastic. Looks like it gives some of his history and not just the work. Should be interesting.

Ray Moscow
15 Jul 2009, 12:56 PM
I merged the three threads about the new Darwin movie into this one.

Notta
18 Jan 2010, 06:55 PM
The US release of this movie is set for this weekend. For a while, it looked as though it wasn't going to be distributed in the US because of lack of a partner (it was deemed 'too controversial' for US audiences).

When I was searching Google for "the creation movie" the SECOND hit was for Dave Hawkins' "Kids 4 Truth" creation flash movie site. I urge the US members of this board to see the movie and post a review here. Let's see if we can knock Dave's cartoon version of creation down a few notches on a Google search!

Haswell
21 Jan 2010, 08:09 AM
I'm really looking foward to this one but I suspect it is more about Darwin the man than the theory (although it will be covered)

I saw a brief clip where Lyle, Henslow(I think) where walking in the Garden with Darwin.

Lyle says "Congratulations Mr. Darwin, you just killed God". Love it.

Valheru
21 Jan 2010, 11:43 AM
Didn't Paul Bettany play the surgeon and naturalist (obviously modelled on Chuck Darwin) in the movie Master and Commander?

Coincidence? Or an easy job for the casting peeps?

Haswell
21 Jan 2010, 12:50 PM
Bettany said it certainly helped him with the character whilst 'on the Beagle'.

Valheru
21 Jan 2010, 12:59 PM
Silly me, it's right there. Learn me to read to whole post :rolleyes: