Another tree

[David B]

In the garden of Ye Olde Worlde Cafe

Anyone know what it is? And if the fruit is edible? They don't in the cafe, and nor do I or the Moscows.

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp275/dble_photo/july017.jpg

David

[nygreenguy]

Looks like a crab apple of some sort.

Its defiantly in the rose family because the of the swollen stem (fruit) that you see there, the serrated alternate leaves and fruits in corymbs


Everything is edible once. :)

[His Noodly Appendage]

It's not a loquat, is it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loquat

[nygreenguy]

It's not a loquat, is it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loquat

I'd say no. The leaves are not hairy enough and not the right shape.

Right family though. :D

[David B]

I don't think it's a crab. The leaves are way bigger than any apple tree I've seen.

David

[nygreenguy]

I don't think it's a crab. The leaves are way bigger than any apple tree I've seen.

David

Well, how big are they? Cant really get a perspective from the picture.

My next guess is a crataegus, a hawthorn. Those also have pome fruits and bigger leaves.

[Monad]

From the leaves it looks more like a Whitebeam to me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitebeam

http://bellquel.bo.cnr.it/scuole/serpieri/erbario/immagini%20erbacee%20spontanee/Rosacee/Sorbus%20aria%201.jpg

http://catalpa.fm.interia.pl/sorbus_aria1.jpg

This shows the fruit slightly later in the year - it has those biggish white backed leaves that glint in the sun

[David B]

As I recall the leaves are 5 or 6 inches. Maybe 7.

Does look like your pic - the fruit must be very unripe now, I spose.

On reflection, I think that is a very good call. There is a whiteness to the leaves when the wind blows.

Don't think I'll sample the fruit, then:(

David

[Berthold]

My next guess is a crataegus, a hawthorn. Those also have pome fruits and bigger leaves.
Crataegus (http://www.bonsai-info.net/baumschule/bilder/crataegus-frucht.jpg). Do they have different leaves in America?

[Monad]

Interesting aside - the Whitebeam group of Sorbus species are considered to be a group that is actively speciating:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Parking_Whitebeam

[Berthold]

Oh, and, by the way, they are edible, sort of. ;) May require cooking; one species (http://zacost.zamg.ac.at/phaeno_portal/typo3temp/pics/11afc53068.jpg) is good for commercial products (http://www.quinta-essentia.at/goelles/steirisch/downloads/vogelbeere.jpg) (but that's a different one from yours).

[nygreenguy]

My next guess is a crataegus, a hawthorn. Those also have pome fruits and bigger leaves.
Crataegus (http://www.bonsai-info.net/baumschule/bilder/crataegus-frucht.jpg). Do they have different leaves in America?

It depends on the species. No all species have lobed leaves like the one in your picture.

We also have the genus sorbus here in the states, but ive never seen or even heard of a "whitebeam" before. And our sorbus look nothing like the whitebeam.

[Monad]

Yeah Whitebeams are very unlike the majority of Sorbus which tend to have pinnate or at least lobed leaves. They can be very striking trees though - there's a whole row of them at one of the hospitals I work at and in the sunlight, especially in the spring when the leaves are fresh, they literally shine (hence the name) when a breeze ruffles the leaves.