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VenDexter
18 Oct 2009, 05:00 AM
The last couple of days I've had something occur on my FB page that has brought back some really tough issues that I thought were dealt with.

Many of the people who have "friended" me on FB are people that I attended public school with. My years in the public education system eventually cost me a year in therapy and permanent damage to my self-esteem. I figured what the hell, we're all adults now.

I've been posting pretty cool links to science items along with notes about their significance and interest. Sooner or later it was bound to happen and so it did - the religious issues cropped up.

I don't hide the fact that I'm an atheist/humanist but someone made a snide remark about it and it brought back a flood of old emotions.

Rather than get in a heavy debate over it I went through this morning and removed all my posts related to scientific topics, religion, etc. I figured that FB is a very superficial way to keep in touch with family and true friends.

However, as the day wore on, it really started eating at me and now I'm even tempted to tell many of them to go take a fucking leap.

If you want to read the lengthy behind-the-scenes detail, you're welcome to. (http://www.vendexter.com/archives/2009/10/facebookpart-three-and-personal-demons.html)

Just needed to vent a little over this one. I hate it when shit like this sneaks up and bites me in the ass.

Ray Moscow
18 Oct 2009, 05:13 AM
I just tell those anti-science folks to "unfriend" me if they don't like reason or evidence.

Don't censor yourself because their religion or politics can't handle reason and evidence.

munnki
18 Oct 2009, 09:02 AM
Yeah fuck them... people who aren't prepared to at least try and understand you are not your friends...

DMB
18 Oct 2009, 09:28 AM
I suggest you unfriend the people who are not really your friends. IRL I only have a few peple I really think of as friends, but on Faceboook I seem to have acquired a lot I hardly know. So work that one out. I think some people mistakenly believe that they gain kudos by having a lot of FB friends, but I think it would be better to be realistic and not try too hard to be friends with people who bullied you at school. If they have truly grown up and expressed contrition for their past behaviour, then it's probably OK, but otherwise not. Leopards don't necessarily change their spots with greater age.

Anyway. There is a Secular Café Facebook group, so you know that among its members you would be likely to meet a few who would be sympathetic and decent to you.

Daydream
18 Oct 2009, 09:29 AM
Yeah fuck them... people who aren't prepared to at least try and understand you are not your friends...

I wholeheartedly agree with munnki!

hecaterin
18 Oct 2009, 09:58 AM
Leave 'em on and say whatever the fuck you want, or dump 'em, or make a group for them and set up limited profile access. I've chosen the first for my relatives. Be aware also that you shouldn't say anything on facebook that you would not like to see in your local news. Privacy is not strong.

You can be my facebook friend (see secular cafe group). But warn you, you'll have to learn how to hide games that you don't want to play.

David B
18 Oct 2009, 11:40 AM
I am so not getting a facebook account. Or myspace. Or twitter.

David

Puck
18 Oct 2009, 01:11 PM
I have a couple of family members who have never known my stance on religion before. They can take me, or leave me. I will not hide who I am for a few folks who want to believe in myths. Even the one who's on there now, who I love very much.

Notta
18 Oct 2009, 01:26 PM
I have a couple of family members who have never known my stance on religion before. They can take me, or leave me. I will not hide who I am for a few folks who want to believe in myths. Even the one who's on there now, who I love very much.I'll echo this. I don't try to hide my beliefs on Facebook. If my 'friends' don't like it, that's too bad.

JamesBannon
18 Oct 2009, 01:32 PM
I am so not getting a facebook account. Or myspace. Or twitter.

David

This old dinosaur very much agrees with you, David.

As for the OP, to hell with censoring yourself. If you post "science" type stuff you think is cool, then that's your right. If your so-called "friends" can't deal with that, or with the fact that you're gay, then that's their problem. As munnki said, fuck them.

VenDexter
18 Oct 2009, 01:54 PM
Thank you guys for the great replies and support.

I'll have to think about it some more but I'll strongly consider dropping a majority of the people. As you all have said "Fuck 'em!"

I hope my post didn't come across as some kind of "woe is me" post. That wasn't my intent. It just honestly surprised me at how quickly old behaviors and thinking patterns can crop back up even after years of hard work to overcome and get rid of them.

I'll be sure to keep you guys updated.

diana
18 Oct 2009, 02:36 PM
Hi, VenDexter.

You didn't include any details about the kind of snark you have to put up with, but I'm with you, pretty much. I enjoy FB, and I post whatever I feel like posting about myself or my beliefs and I use any sort of language I feel like using. I'll have political debates on my page (which have sometimes gone for something like 170 posts in a thread), too. My rule is this: you can comment if you like, but you will be polite, focused, and respectful. This applies to everyone. I don't go shit on their pages and I expect them to return the courtesy.

Because the courtesy isn't always returned, even after I delete the offending post and politely request a respectful rewording, I unfriend the person. Simple. I figure people who cannot disagree respectfully with me aren't my friends, anyway.

In this fashion, I've overhauled my friend list over the past two or three months. I highly recommend taking such an approach. It may sound cold, but I no longer cringe when I open up FB. The housecleaning was good for me.

Best of luck.

d

Sodong
18 Oct 2009, 02:57 PM
That's the beauty of it. Back in public school it was almost impossible to avoid the kids who tormented us. On FB, it's easy. With a click of the mouse we can turn the little shits into anonymous electrons that leave us at the speed of light and be done with them.

That said, my kids talked me into joining but I still don't see much point in it. If I want to talk to them or my friends I usually pick up the phone or send an email. I don't usually have time to post anything there. An occasional reply to a message if a notice shows up in my email. So far none of my former public school class mates have requested my friendship. That was a long time ago when there was no such thing as a personal computer, so it doesn't surprise me.

Iblis waswas
18 Oct 2009, 03:45 PM
Don't ever censor your views. I am a vocal athiest and take great delight in all discussion with anyone who holds medieval views. If I had these comments on my facebook profile I would immediately respond with attacks on their comments or by using sarchasm and wit to make funny replies. I don't suggest you do this yourself, but please don't hide your views. Atheism is the only real truth there is and the truth cannot be spread by censorship.

VenDexter
18 Oct 2009, 04:08 PM
Okay, I'm really fired up thanks to you guys.

I'm going to post whatever the hell I choose with the knowledge that I can at least defend it from a rational, critical-thinking, standpoint unlike the woo many of them espouse.

I just posted a couple of things on my page and will continue to do so.

I do have a few agnostic/atheist friends on FB and I know that they'll get my back in a pinch.

Thanks again you guys!

Puck
18 Oct 2009, 06:32 PM
I received a Friend request from someone I didn't know. When I looked at his friends list, I knew no one there, but I did see he was a member of the American Atheist fb group, so I wrote him asking him why he requested friendship since we didn't have any common friends.

He said he was the only atheist he knew, and he felt like he needed some atheist fb friends to counter his sometimes overly religious friends. How could I turn that down? He also managed to pick up at least one other atheist, and now the two of us will back him up when he asks things like 'so where was jesus born, Bethlehem or Nazareth?'. He's not prolific, so it's not really any work on our part, and it's nice to support some stranger in his quest to stand against the tide. And it's nice to slowly get to know him, too.

Iblis waswas
18 Oct 2009, 09:46 PM
Wow, I'm guessing from how people must post on fb in the states that if you walked around wearing the infamous Cradle of Filth "Vestal Masterbation" T-shirt that you'd just about get lynched?

I seen someone in Edinburgh wearing the T-shirt and didn't notice any reaction, although I'm sure it would evoke plenty.

hecaterin
19 Oct 2009, 12:30 AM
I've got quite a few FB friends that are strangers to me. Some from secular cafe, some from games. So far it's been really nice - I'd like to met a few of them IRL.

It gets important to manage your settings. Hide apps you don't want to use, create friend groups etc etc. At the moment I'm into playing quite a few games (hello, unemployment) so hiding apps is a useful skill for any of my friends :)

Goodchild
19 Oct 2009, 12:49 AM
Is there any way to hide or block all those annoying post spams of people's favorite games? I'm sick of seeing "so-and-so levelled up in Mafia Wars!" crap that people post. If there's a way, how do you do it?

hecaterin
19 Oct 2009, 01:34 AM
Mouse over around the top right of the annoying post. A small menu will pop up offering you the option to hide the person or the application.

(If it's a facebook native thing like a status, you just get the option to hide the person)

crazyfingers
19 Oct 2009, 01:57 AM
I have no interest in doing Facebook. I've been invited many times by relatives and politely decline to register.

But if I were to do facebook I would first decide what it was that I was doing it for. Is it just to post family photos and adventures for relatives? If so then I'd exclude all opinions and stick to family activities, vacations, etc....

OTOH, if it was about me, then I would not censor what I said.

However, there is no way in hell that I would ever do such a thing. My real life is far too public in my industry and business associates from around the world would likely see the page. I know for a fact that I have had prospects google my name. I'm easily Googlable with multiple direct hits on my Bio at work, conferences I've presented at, papers I've written, etc... There is no way in hell that I'd allow facebook stuff to show up also. No way.

Facebook is not for me.

Preno
19 Oct 2009, 11:50 AM
However, there is no way in hell that I would ever do such a thing. My real life is far too public in my industry and business associates from around the world would likely see the page. I know for a fact that I have had prospects google my name. I'm easily Googlable with multiple direct hits on my Bio at work, conferences I've presented at, papers I've written, etc... There is no way in hell that I'd allow facebook stuff to show up also. No way.

Facebook is not for me.Uh, what you write on Facebook does not show up in Google.

Iblis waswas
19 Oct 2009, 12:48 PM
I know that in Aberdeen oil companies do seach on google to check out peoples social networking site's to see if they make comments about staff or the company.

There was a conservative party member who lost his job with the conservative party last year because the photo's on his facebook page of him being leg-less with drink and lying in the floor in a mess. I believe they were accompanied with comments that were deemed irresponsible by the party.

If I type my name into google it comes up with my facebook profile picture and some of my friends list and bands that I'm a member of, but it doesn't show any of the comments or anything form my page so I presume that is not searchable. My Bebo profile is fully searchable, but then my name isn't mentioned on it at all as my entire page is a made up comedy page.

crazyfingers
19 Oct 2009, 12:52 PM
However, there is no way in hell that I would ever do such a thing. My real life is far too public in my industry and business associates from around the world would likely see the page. I know for a fact that I have had prospects google my name. I'm easily Googlable with multiple direct hits on my Bio at work, conferences I've presented at, papers I've written, etc... There is no way in hell that I'd allow facebook stuff to show up also. No way.

Facebook is not for me.Uh, what you write on Facebook does not show up in Google.

However when I have googled people I have found their facebook page.

Puck
19 Oct 2009, 01:17 PM
I don't use my real name on facebook. I don't think Joe Crazyfingers would trace back to you so long as you kept it anonymous.

Preno
19 Oct 2009, 01:28 PM
However, there is no way in hell that I would ever do such a thing. My real life is far too public in my industry and business associates from around the world would likely see the page. I know for a fact that I have had prospects google my name. I'm easily Googlable with multiple direct hits on my Bio at work, conferences I've presented at, papers I've written, etc... There is no way in hell that I'd allow facebook stuff to show up also. No way.

Facebook is not for me.Uh, what you write on Facebook does not show up in Google.However when I have googled people I have found their facebook page.Unless you yourself disable the privacy settings and make your profile public, Google can't see anything except your name (and a part of your friends list). The fact that some people have their profiles public doesn't mean your profile is going to be public.

Notta
19 Oct 2009, 01:54 PM
I've got quite a few FB friends that are strangers to me. Some from secular cafe, some from games. So far it's been really nice - I'd like to met a few of them IRL.

It gets important to manage your settings. Hide apps you don't want to use, create friend groups etc etc. At the moment I'm into playing quite a few games (hello, unemployment) so hiding apps is a useful skill for any of my friends :)I need to know how to do that......

Notta
19 Oct 2009, 01:55 PM
Unless you yourself disable the privacy settings and make your profile public, Google can't see anything except your name (and a part of your friends list). The fact that some people have their profiles public doesn't mean your profile is going to be public.We need a 'thanks' button for posts like this. Thank you, Preno.

Matty
19 Oct 2009, 01:56 PM
be liberal with the delete button and be very free and easy with the "No i dont care what start sign your imaginary pet dog has, fuck off," button. This will extend your facebooking pleasure.

and dont ever accept your mom as a facebook friends.

http://images.google.ca/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.shockmansion.com/wp-content/myimages/2009/09/tn_facebook-mom-2.jpg&usg=AFQjCNF2I4DP6lkiqy17NXhjLukGbFFcWQ

Matty
19 Oct 2009, 02:06 PM
or Aunts too. This one from texts from last night.

now I regret adding my aunt on facebook. she remnded me today on my wall about the importance of checking my stools for blood since I have diaherria.

DMB
19 Oct 2009, 04:26 PM
be liberal with the delete button and be very free and easy with the "No i dont care what start sign your imaginary pet dog has, fuck off," button. This will extend your facebooking pleasure.

and dont ever accept your mom as a facebook friends.

Oops! I only joined facebook because my kids kept nagging me about it. So obviously they were my first friends. :p

dug_down_deep
19 Oct 2009, 04:52 PM
I have Facebook friends from this crowd whom I haven't matched to their forum names yet. Somebody should send me a list via PM. :D

DMB
19 Oct 2009, 05:13 PM
I have Facebook friends from this crowd whom I haven't matched to their forum names yet. Somebody should send me a list via PM. :D

Here (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=78786132141&ref=ts).

dug_down_deep
19 Oct 2009, 05:23 PM
Oh wow. I had no idea that was there. I already joined the group. Thanks!

diana
19 Oct 2009, 07:24 PM
I do, but that's me: life is too short to bother masquerading as someone else. Or maybe I'm just too lazy.

(There's really no need for anyone to respond defensively to this. I do understand I'm in the minority here.)

d

Puck
19 Oct 2009, 07:32 PM
*remembers that she's on her Daughter's fb*

*and her Grand Daughter's*

Damn.

Zygote
26 Oct 2009, 04:39 PM
Facebook can be a great communication tool.

I've found friends I'd lost track of decades ago. It's fun to see how similar we've become, or the differences.

It's easy to get information out to people who might be interested. I'm currently glued to facebook for updates about a friend's kid who's in the hospital.

You can keep in touch with people without being in their face about it. I check in now and then on my nieces and nephews in high school and college whom I don't contact otherwise.

Worldtraveller
26 Oct 2009, 06:44 PM
I keep posting facts on my rightwing 'friends' pages. They hate that....

dug_down_deep
26 Oct 2009, 07:07 PM
Facts is like kryptonite to right wingers!

Ray Moscow
26 Oct 2009, 07:16 PM
I keep posting facts on my rightwing 'friends' pages. They hate that....

I tried that with a distant cousin, and she "unfriended" me.

Which is fine with me. :D

hecaterin
28 Oct 2009, 11:43 PM
I just last night went out for tapas and drinks with a friend I'd reconnected with through facebook. She's in town for a conference; we worked out it had been probably a decade since we last met. It was lovely.

Matty, my imaginary cows, ducks, pigs etc all have the same sign, which is "keep on the grass". :p

Every now and then I post a "how to hide this" notice with my app updates.

crazyfingers
29 Oct 2009, 12:46 AM
However, there is no way in hell that I would ever do such a thing. My real life is far too public in my industry and business associates from around the world would likely see the page. I know for a fact that I have had prospects google my name. I'm easily Googlable with multiple direct hits on my Bio at work, conferences I've presented at, papers I've written, etc... There is no way in hell that I'd allow facebook stuff to show up also. No way.

Facebook is not for me.Uh, what you write on Facebook does not show up in Google.However when I have googled people I have found their facebook page.Unless you yourself disable the privacy settings and make your profile public, Google can't see anything except your name (and a part of your friends list). The fact that some people have their profiles public doesn't mean your profile is going to be public.

NPR is running a series on privacy and yesterday they had a discussion about Facebook and how even when you have privacy enabled, things like quizes can troll your pages when you are taking a quiz and that your info can be put into someone's database at that time.

His Noodly Appendage
29 Oct 2009, 01:11 AM
Just the idea of joining facebook gives me the heebiejeebies.

I abhor and despise glitterpoop in all its forms. It makes me angry. I do not wish to be subjected to it, either directly, or indirectly. If I could proactively block all crap related to games/applications/etc with extreme prejudice, I might be tempted. If I am going to be bombarded with spam about how someone on my friend list has chosen a new favourite colour of virtual toothbrush, count me out.

I have a few, separate social circles. I have my work environment, my family, and a few separate online communities. I like having borders between them. I like being able to keep issues and actions within one circle local to that circle. I know Facebook has concepts of 'limited' and 'full' access, but they're not at all relevant to that concern. I wouldn't want any group to see everything, nor would I want to limit members within a given group to a subset of my interactions with that group. Just give me a way to actually partition the damn thing. If I can't, then hell no.

SallyAnne
29 Oct 2009, 03:51 AM
I have no interest in doing Facebook.


me neither, none whatsoever....

Preno
29 Oct 2009, 09:29 AM
NPR is running a series on privacy and yesterday they had a discussion about Facebook and how even when you have privacy enabled, things like quizes can troll your pagesI don't think that word means what you think it means.
when you are taking a quiz and that your info can be put into someone's database at that time.IIRC there is a very explicit warning about this, which says that by using this or that application you agree to share information from your profile with the application. Since you don't have to answer any of them (and I don't, because they tend to be retarded), I fail to see how that's a problem.

Also, what "info"? Even in the worst case, the only info it can access is what you yourself put into your profile. It doesn't magically gain access to information that you didn't provide. Since you don't have to put anything in your profile, again, that's an absurd reason not to join Facebook.

dug_down_deep
30 Oct 2009, 02:47 PM
I have a few, separate social circles. I have my work environment, my family, and a few separate online communities. I like having borders between them. I like being able to keep issues and actions within one circle local to that circle. I know Facebook has concepts of 'limited' and 'full' access, but they're not at all relevant to that concern. I wouldn't want any group to see everything, nor would I want to limit members within a given group to a subset of my interactions with that group. Just give me a way to actually partition the damn thing. If I can't, then hell no.
I think FB needs to improve their functionality in this regard, but they seem to have a prevailing 'open up your life to the world' philosophy, for good or ill.

You could just get a sock account for your politics or whatever, like me.

Puck
30 Oct 2009, 04:04 PM
Actually, you can make separate groups of friends in fb and keep communications among them divided. I've not done it, so I can't tell you how to go about it, though.

And yeah, I would never give out even my real name on there. Those who are friends either know me in real life, or know me from the boards, and either way, Puck will work.

dug_down_deep
30 Oct 2009, 06:46 PM
If you can get any more fine-grained with your routing than sending wall posts, for example, to this group and not that one, I'm unaware of it. (But I am a FB noob, so I could be wrong.) It would be nice if you could send your game posts only to people on a gamer's list, and so forth.

lpetrich
30 Oct 2009, 07:23 PM
I've created separate groups and I've set at least one of them to rather limited access, so I think I could explain how to do that.

dug_down_deep
30 Oct 2009, 07:48 PM
Is it possible? I haven't figured out a way to do that. Like with wall posts, you either send them or you don't. How would someone send game posts only to a gamers list, for example?

LoneWolf
30 Oct 2009, 08:38 PM
Is it possible? I haven't figured out a way to do that. Like with wall posts, you either send them or you don't. How would someone send game posts only to a gamers list, for example?

Yeah, if this is possible I don't know how. I know how to post NOTES to specific friend lists but not plain old status updates.

dug_down_deep
30 Oct 2009, 09:02 PM
Hey, LW. Do you want to be my friend? I keep seeing you pop up on the right side of my screen.

LoneWolf
30 Oct 2009, 09:39 PM
Hey, LW. Do you want to be my friend? I keep seeing you pop up on the right side of my screen.

Hmmm. I deem you worthy.

:)

Christina
31 Oct 2009, 02:06 PM
I am so not getting a facebook account. Or myspace. Or twitter.

David

This old dinosaur very much agrees with you, David.



Add me to the dinosaur list because I've never even looked at those sites. I don't know what I need them for because I stay in touch with the people that I want to and the last thing I want is to be found by people I lost on purpose. I already spend too much time online here and at the other forum that I'm a mod on. I'm pretty sure that those sites aren't aimed at antisocial people like me and I don't do anything interesting enough to tell everyone on twitter several times a day.

Christina
31 Oct 2009, 02:14 PM
I have a few, separate social circles. I have my work environment, my family, and a few separate online communities. I like having borders between them. I like being able to keep issues and actions within one circle local to that circle.

Me too. I hopelessly abysmally suck at being part of big cliques and if I have to juggle friends that don't like each other I'd rather just run away altogether. My close personal friends aren't friends with each other, they don't know my family and with only 2 exceptions that I can think of they didn't have anything to do with my professional life either. It's so much easier for me that way. The idea of some open community where people I barely know declare themselves to be my 'friend' creeps me out big time. We're both weird ;)

His Noodly Appendage
31 Oct 2009, 02:54 PM
Ya.

Thing is, some elements of it sound good.

I quite often like to share random links/thoughts/etc with a group of people - most of my random crap goes on the CF thread.

If you could only filter the recipients of status updates (or whatever) to users with or without certain tags, I'd be massively more comfortable with it.

Christina
31 Oct 2009, 02:59 PM
I just stick my random thoughts in wherever I happen to be at the time but there are some that are too mundane or weird even for me to post. I probably don't need to be encouraged to babble random thoughts anywhere else though since mine are nowhere near as interesting as yours are.

lpetrich
31 Oct 2009, 03:00 PM
Is it possible? I haven't figured out a way to do that. Like with wall posts, you either send them or you don't. How would someone send game posts only to a gamers list, for example?

First, get to your Privacy page.

You can get there by clicking "Settings", then clicking the "manage" link for "Privacy", or else by mousing over "Settings", then mousing down and clicking the "Privacy Settings" link.

You can then go to links for

Profile
Search
News Feed and Wall
Applications

to control what others can see of them. You can also create a block list of anyone you want to keep from seeing anything of you on Facebook.

Go to the Profile link, and you'll be able to select how much or little a friend can see of:

Profile
Basic Info
Personal Info
Status and Links
Photos Tagged of You
Videos Tagged of You
Friends
Wall Posts
Education Info
Work Info

Each one has a popup menu listing who can see each one:

Everyone
My Networks and Friends
Friends of Friends
My Friends
Customize...

For finer-grained control, go to Customize... and you can also choose

Some Friends (type in which ones)
Only Me (and my selected networks)
All Network
Some Networks (select which ones)
No Networks
Except These People (type in which ones and which friend lists)


Yes, friend lists. You can create them as a way of sorting out your Facebook friends or for restricting the access of some of them en masse.

You mouse over Friends and click on the "All Friends" link. You will then see a button on top called "Create New List..." You will then get a dialog box where you can type in its name and select who you want in that list. When you are done, you will see this list listed under "Lists".

His Noodly Appendage
31 Oct 2009, 03:07 PM
Ya, but that's not on a per-item basis.

I suppose that many here, ferinstance, are not 'out' to their families as atheists. And I'd also imagine that many of those people wouldn't want all their TR friends to see personal stuff about their family life.

As such, I can't imagine such a person being able to have both groups as friends on their FB account, and yet be able to post stuff on both topics.

LoneWolf
01 Nov 2009, 02:20 PM
Ya, but that's not on a per-item basis.

I suppose that many here, ferinstance, are not 'out' to their families as atheists. And I'd also imagine that many of those people wouldn't want all their TR friends to see personal stuff about their family life.

As such, I can't imagine such a person being able to have both groups as friends on their FB account, and yet be able to post stuff on both topics.

Yeah, the not being able to do it on a per item basis is my main problem with FB. I do use FB but I would probably use it more if I had an easy way to control who sees the status updates on a per item basis.

dug_down_deep
02 Nov 2009, 02:23 PM
Yes, exactly. That's what I was trying to get at.

Right now on my account I have gamers added just to boost my hit points in Mafia Wars, leftist political friends who like to raid right wing sites with me, and several of you atheist sorts. It would be nice not to worry about some random right winger added to my mafia reading my political posts, while still being able to post my MW level-ups and other game posts.

eta: ...also not to bother Tanya with my game posts...

willynilly
02 Nov 2009, 04:15 PM
I talk more with my friends and family on facebook than any other way. You can hide what you like and reduce what you send to people's wall. It can be as private as you want. I have a couple of game people I don't know but mostly it's family.

halii
02 Nov 2009, 09:12 PM
all my friends from high school are super sensitive and super conservative. i wrote a post about ted kennedy dying and people freaked out. they freak out about obama all the time too. i keep them as my friends because quite frankly it doesn't bother me. it makes me feel embarrassed for them when i get an obama-wants-to-kill-the-jews chain mail or obama-isn't-a-citizen or a obama-is-antichrist or whatever post.

they are the ones who should feel embarrassed. they don't because they don't understand. they don't interact with people with different viewpoints and so they just act as a fox news pundit would to whatever crazy liberal they get on the program.

i think a few defriended me after I wrote something nice about ted kennedy "the murderer" as they called him, lol.

Matty
03 Nov 2009, 02:30 PM
ya, i've been excluded from a small group of my more hippy mates cos I once said something unkind about homoeopaths and some of their kookier friends are a bit sensitive about such things and took offence.

heh.

Worldtraveller
09 Nov 2009, 01:36 PM
I delisted one of my old high school friends last week. She was the first person I had taken off my list. It's similar to putting someone on ignore on a forum for me. I don't think I have ever actually had more than one or two people on ignore, since I can easily skip over their posts and reply or not if I want to. But since she got all uppity about my replying to her retarded right wing shit, and didn't actually want to discuss any of it, I got rid of the clutter on my page, since that's pretty much all she posted.

lao tzu
10 Nov 2009, 12:27 AM
I've put in a request to join the Secular Cafe group. Is there someone I should PM with my bona fides?

As ever, Jesse

DMB
10 Nov 2009, 06:01 AM
I don't think so. But perhaps let the rest of us know who you are.

LoneWolf
02 Dec 2009, 09:00 PM
Is it possible? I haven't figured out a way to do that. Like with wall posts, you either send them or you don't. How would someone send game posts only to a gamers list, for example?

Yeah, if this is possible I don't know how. I know how to post NOTES to specific friend lists but not plain old status updates.

Well, it looks like Facebook might be taking a great step in the right direction. The founder of FB released a statement that contained this:

We're adding something that many of you have asked for — the ability to control who sees each individual piece of content you create or upload.

I know that will have a huge impact on what I post and will thus probably lead me to post more. Here is the whole message he released that talks about some of the changes they will be making now that they have hit 350 million users.

Link (http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=190423927130)

dug_down_deep
02 Dec 2009, 09:42 PM
Yeah, looks like they're moving in the right direction. Now if they can clean house and get rid of the shady software companies, they'll be even better.

His Noodly Appendage
03 Dec 2009, 04:00 AM
I saw this just now.

Let me know if it works - I might be tempted to actually sign up!

diana
03 Dec 2009, 05:44 AM
ye gods

Bane
03 Dec 2009, 11:12 AM
Yes, exactly. That's what I was trying to get at.

Right now on my account I have gamers added just to boost my hit points in Mafia Wars, leftist political friends who like to raid right wing sites with me, and several of you atheist sorts. It would be nice not to worry about some random right winger added to my mafia reading my political posts, while still being able to post my MW level-ups and other game posts.

eta: ...also not to bother Tanya with my game posts...

I hide the games from my news feed.:D

dug_down_deep
03 Dec 2009, 04:59 PM
You're a hypocrite, Tanya. I keep having to hide your quizzes all the time. ;):D

His Noodly Appendage
03 Dec 2009, 11:29 PM
So, um, you don't *have* to use your real name on this thing, do you?

lpetrich
03 Dec 2009, 11:37 PM
You can make up a real-looking name, like "Horatio Blueskyboris".

diana
03 Dec 2009, 11:47 PM
So, um, you don't *have* to use your real name on this thing, do you?No. 3d doesn't. Puck doesn't.

d

His Noodly Appendage
04 Dec 2009, 12:06 AM
Okay, I've registered (as myself *snif* they wouldn't accept any of my handles) - anyone want to add me?

lpetrich
04 Dec 2009, 12:25 AM
I'd like to -- search for me there with my real name, Loren Petrich.

Puck
04 Dec 2009, 01:08 PM
Once you pick up Loren, you can find me on his friends list and send a friend request if you'd like. Just add a note telling me who you are.

Goodchild
04 Dec 2009, 04:26 PM
Okay, I've registered (as myself *snif* they wouldn't accept any of my handles) - anyone want to add me?

Just sent you a friend request. It's the one from Ken Schaffter.

dug_down_deep
04 Dec 2009, 04:57 PM
So, um, you don't *have* to use your real name on this thing, do you?No. 3d doesn't. Puck doesn't.

d
Well, technically I do, but not more than once. ;)

dug_down_deep
04 Dec 2009, 04:59 PM
I'm on their lists, too, with the name Tom Joad and this avatar. If you don't intend to play Mafia Wars, you might want to block the notifications soon, because I send out a lot. :)

dug_down_deep
04 Dec 2009, 07:18 PM
prolly just didn't get around to requesting me yet, huh. huh? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/108.gif

His Noodly Appendage
04 Dec 2009, 09:07 PM
Today, 04:59 AM #86501 / #82
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I been thinkin' about us

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I'm on their lists, too, with the name Tom Joad and this avatar. If you don't intend to play Mafia Wars, you might want to block the notifications soon, because I send out a lot.

(my bold)

dug_down_deep
04 Dec 2009, 09:19 PM
Good morning! :D

Notta
04 Dec 2009, 09:53 PM
Okay, I've registered (as myself *snif* they wouldn't accept any of my handles) - anyone want to add me?Yes - PM me with your real name & I'll send you a request, telling you I'm Notta.

Join the Secular Cafe group, too, while you're there.

diana
04 Dec 2009, 11:33 PM
If you guys haven't, you really should check out this "fan" site on FB:

2010 California Protection of Marriage Act

Hilarious.

d

Sidhe747
05 Dec 2009, 08:08 AM
Facebook is the weapon of Satan, that and mobile phones.

Victory or death for the Luddites!

His Noodly Appendage
07 Dec 2009, 01:04 PM
I'm browsing facebook [I]on[I] my mobile phone. When's the apocalypse?

Sidhe747
07 Dec 2009, 01:12 PM
I'm browsing facebook [I]on[I] my mobile phone. When's the apocalypse?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iE6yqx4-O2E/SuTXcUkFm9I/AAAAAAAAAOE/BN-KO51L8rQ/s320/zombie-apocalypse-demotivator.jpg

http://www.demotivatorblog.com/wp-content/uploads/yapb_cache/maturity.cchfoew23bwwswkogsc008os8.ap2qhjyqp08cgc0 c80ss4cco4.th.jpeg

http://www.demotivatorblog.com/wp-content/uploads/yapb_cache/895.begm85thnfkk8w8k4wkco8ocg.ap2qhjyqp08cgc0c80ss 4cco4.th.jpeg

I lold.

Matty
07 Dec 2009, 02:03 PM
8tqEBQjWRws

LoneWolf
09 Dec 2009, 10:52 PM
Well, the changes are in effect and it appears to be exactly what we were wanting. Now when you make posts to your wall you can select who can see it. You can let everyone see it or you can pick a specific friend list. So I can make a post that, say, just the SC folks can see. You can also make it viewable to just one or two people.

Another advantage of this is if you want to use your page for business purposes as well you can prevent your personal and professional identities from crossing.

Thanks FB. Now do something about all those freaking applications. :)

Matty
10 Dec 2009, 12:37 AM
i got defriended by 3 idiot BNP supporters from my home town last night

My first ever defriending. I feel like i just popped my Fb cherry.

David B
10 Dec 2009, 12:43 AM
I am still so much not getting registered on Facebook.

David

LoneWolf
10 Dec 2009, 04:03 AM
i got defriended by 3 idiot BNP supporters from my home town last night

My first ever defriending. I feel like i just popped my Fb cherry.

Did you get a notification you were defriended or did you just notice they were no longer on your friend list?

Shake
10 Dec 2009, 05:45 AM
I'm on their lists, too, with the name Tom Joad and this avatar. If you don't intend to play Mafia Wars, you might want to block the notifications soon, because I send out a lot. :)

Ooh, I'm always looking out for new Mafia members. I'll try to remember to look you up.

Matty
10 Dec 2009, 01:18 PM
i got defriended by 3 idiot BNP supporters from my home town last night

My first ever defriending. I feel like i just popped my Fb cherry.

Did you get a notification you were defriended or did you just notice they were no longer on your friend list?

One of them threw a complete hissy fit when i pointed out she was fucking retarded.

the end was a good one actually, get this. (paraphrased, i cant get back on to grab the actual convo, but it went much like this)

"You're just as bad as the rest of them. You fucking immigrants :eek:, THEY come here and steal and rape and fuck up the country. YOU suck up as much tax money as you can and then fuck off to another country leaving people like me with the bill.

"Hold on, what the fuck are you talking about. When did you ever pay for anything i ever did. Come to think of it, when did you ever pay tax? Do you pay tax on dole? i didnt think you did.

You. And the other fucking students You Get grants, loans and everything promising to pay them off and then just fuck off when its time to pay them.


What, you think that just cos i moved to Canada my student loans just disappeared? You arent that much of a fucking moron are you. Anyway, i was out of uni for ten fucking years before i emigrated and my loans paid off anyway, but no., You just pay more per month becasue of the exchange rate , retard. Plus loans replaced grants, you didnt get both.

Youre lying. AND you are lying about normal people like me being racist. We just dont think all the housing spots and money should go to muslims and poles and other immigrants in front of British people. Thats not racist. Thats totally fair enough, its OUR fucking country.

Not racist? Lol. And Nick Griffin is a nice guy who loves Reggae. Not a racist who looks like that dude from the Goonies?

FUCK YOU. NICK GRIFFIN IS THE ONLY POLITICIAN THAT GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. YOU FUCKING DONT. DELETING YOU RIGHT NOW.

The whole thing disappeared. I then noticed a bit later that some of her moron friends who had been chiming in with comparably enlightened comments had vanished too ("and it was fucking immigrants what ran a plane into those towers" being a particularly memorable one. That sparked off a "Muslims cant be true brits or vice versa" sidetrack)


This might become a hobby.

dug_down_deep
10 Dec 2009, 06:22 PM
I'm on their lists, too, with the name Tom Joad and this avatar. If you don't intend to play Mafia Wars, you might want to block the notifications soon, because I send out a lot. :)

Ooh, I'm always looking out for new Mafia members. I'll try to remember to look you up.
If you want to quickly get several thousand new mafia members and don't mind having a bunch of strangers as friends, go to mafia.monkeytooth.net, enter your email address there (a throwaway, since it will be public), and copy and paste the address list and send out invites through the FB invite system.

But yeah, if you want to keep it small, look for me. Same avatar.

dug_down_deep
10 Dec 2009, 06:25 PM
This might become a hobby.
It can be fun. Join all the right wing groups you can find, and just sit back and watch the stupid roll in. :D

Pendaric
10 Dec 2009, 09:38 PM
I have a Facebook page, but I really don't get it.

Notta
10 Dec 2009, 10:37 PM
All the default privacy listings on Facebook are now "everybody" -- which includes searches from Google. I just found out I had (without my knowledge) given 43 applications permission to post things on my profile without asking me. They all came from those stupid quizzes and games people posted on their status updates and I clicked on. It took me several minutes to go through each one (listed under "privacy settings" and "applications") to undo their ability to post something without my permission and to limit them to 'just me' to see them. I'm unable to delete them completely.

So, the upshot apparently is that if I click on one of those stupid applications EVEN ONCE, it forever appears in my application list and I can't ever undo it.

lpetrich
10 Dec 2009, 11:11 PM
Notta, I've discovered a very easy way to purge unwanted applications from your Facebook account.

Click on "Applications" on the bottom left. The Applications menu will pop upwards. It will contain a menu item near the bottom, "Edit Applications".

You will get a page called "Application Settings". You can then select which category, like "Recently Used", "Bookmarked", etc.

Each app will have links "Edit Settings", "Profile", and "X".

Click on the X for an app, and it will ask you if you want to make it disappear from your account. I've found that it works -- when I do that to an app, it no longer appears in the Application Settings pages.

Notta, if you are already doing this and it fails to make apps disappear from your account, then something must be seriously wrong.

David B
11 Dec 2009, 12:54 AM
I have a Facebook page, but I really don't get it.

I don't.

And I'm glad I don't, not being the most computer savvy person in the world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8405334.stm

David

diana
11 Dec 2009, 07:30 AM
I am still so much not getting registered on Facebook.

DavidI'll still think you're cute as hell, even if you don't provide proof.

d

Ray Moscow
11 Dec 2009, 12:10 PM
Diana and I have fun baiting rightwingers (i.e., most or our relatives and people we actually know) on Facebook.

I've never felt any need to dodge these people. They should dodge me instead.

Notta
11 Dec 2009, 12:15 PM
Notta, I've discovered a very easy way to purge unwanted applications from your Facebook account.

Click on "Applications" on the bottom left. The Applications menu will pop upwards. It will contain a menu item near the bottom, "Edit Applications".

You will get a page called "Application Settings". You can then select which category, like "Recently Used", "Bookmarked", etc.

Each app will have links "Edit Settings", "Profile", and "X".

Click on the X for an app, and it will ask you if you want to make it disappear from your account. I've found that it works -- when I do that to an app, it no longer appears in the Application Settings pages.

Notta, if you are already doing this and it fails to make apps disappear from your account, then something must be seriously wrong.Thanks! When I was resetting my apps permissions about posting, NONE of them had an X in the right-hand side. I finally found how to do it, so I'm down to my favorite few. I wondered how Farmville kept updating things on my home page when I expressly clicked "cancel" every time it asked me to post something. I hate that app.

Matty
11 Dec 2009, 12:57 PM
I've never felt any need to dodge these people. They should dodge me instead.


:cool:

lao tzu
13 Dec 2009, 06:47 AM
I am still so much not getting registered on Facebook.

DavidI'll still think you're cute as hell, even if you don't provide proof.

d

That's it. I'm deleting my FB account. Better by far a mistaken impression of cuteness unsullied by harsh, cold, evidence to the contrary.

Or maybe I'll just delete my profile pics.

dug_down_deep
14 Dec 2009, 07:17 PM
I wondered how Farmville kept updating things on my home page when I expressly clicked "cancel" every time it asked me to post something. I hate that app.
Zynga is a scumbag company. I can't wait until I obsessively finish all my jobs in Mafia Wars and my wife gets tired of Yoville, so I can stop helping them to make money.

Matty
14 Dec 2009, 07:48 PM
i find that unrestricted bullying of your friends sad enough to subscribe to Farmville or other retarded passtimes helps.

Even if they arent so embarrassed as to quit altogether, they sure as fuck make sure you dont get notified in future next time they buy a new strain of virtual carrots. Put the onus on them i say.

dug_down_deep
14 Dec 2009, 08:03 PM
social networking snobbery spotted

hecaterin
15 Dec 2009, 06:03 AM
I play games, and I reckon anybody dumb enough not to click the "hide this application" button deserves to get spammed. Especially after I post the how-to advice from time to time.

*returns to slaying virtual sea serpents in the quest for the virtual pieces of the virtual map of virtual atlantis*

dug_down_deep
15 Dec 2009, 03:10 PM
you are my virtual hero

Notta
15 Dec 2009, 05:56 PM
Someone just sent me $25,650 worth of gifts in Mouse Hunt on Facebook. That game encourages sharing and teamwork. The hunters with the highest rankings have charitable groups that help novice hunters earn their way forwards.

Not like Farmville, which just encourages you to buy more stuff for no apparent reason, and posts things without your permission.

Matty
15 Dec 2009, 06:01 PM
One hint i will give y'all. If you are a grown man make sure the publish to friends profile box is unchecked next time you buy a new "Rainbow Fairy Slide" for your virtual funfair.

If you have friends like us lot anyway, I'd strongly recommend it. Poor bastard.