[Guardian] Palin For President

[munnki]

Turns out that Palin charges more than Tony Blair for private speaking engagements. Well, most of the time, I guess it depends on how well the dollar is doing. She got $100,000 for this speech to an audience of tea-baggers (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/feb/07/sarah-palin-tea-party).


The weirdest part of the evening came not during the speech but during the following Q&A session. Asked what she thought that a Republican-controlled congress's top three priorities should be, she answered: stop spending, energy policy and ... well, here's the whole quote, judge for yourself:

I think, kind of tougher to put our arms around, but allowing America's spirit to rise again by not being afraid to kind of go back to some of our roots as a God fearing nation where we're not afraid to say especially in times of potential trouble in the future here, where we're not afraid to say, you know, we don't have all the answers as fallible men and women so it would be wise of us to start seeking some divine intervention again in this country, so that we can be safe and secure and prosperous again. To have people involved in government who aren't afraid to go that route, not so afraid of the political correctness that you know – they have to be afraid of what the media said about them if they were to proclaim their alliance to our creator.

So, one of the US congress's top priorities should be ... asking for divine intervention from God? "I can think of two words right now that scare liberals: President Palin," the moderator ended the evening by saying. A brief chant of "Run, Sarah, run," broke out, although not one shared by the whole room. Proving, perhaps, that you don't have to be a liberal to be worried by Sarah Palin.


I'm not even sure if I shudder at the thought of a Palin presidency so much as see people outside America actually finally rejecting the place. How could people possibly take America seriously with Ned Flander's wife as President?

Also the only situation in which I'd be shouting 'Run, Sarah, run' is when a pack of badly beaten and hungry hounds have been released behind her and I'm smiling holding a beer in my hand. The words would be coming out quite faintly, almost as a whisper - 'Run, Sarah,...'

[Haswell]

She is also, as I understand it, an "End Timer" which would suggest she is more concerned about Middle east politics than her own country.

As it stands, her only rivals would be Mike Huckabee, the loony minister and Mitt Romney, the Mormon. (I might have said Loony Mormon but that's redundant).

If she is the bast Republicans/ conservatives/ teabaggers can come up with then we are screwed.

If you needed further reason to discard her, remember that she is a Fox Noise contributor and getting tuition from, jesus fucking H. Christ, Glenn Beck and O'Reilly. Still you know what to expect from her when the likes of Limbaugh reckons her book was the most 'substantial political book' he had read.

She's a joke but if her opponents dont take her seriously, she just might get in somewhere via the back door. Id bet if she looked like Janet Reno, she'd not get half the publicity she gets. O'Reilly has the cheek to wonder why liberals are scared of her? We should all be terrified.

[DMB]

safe and secure and prosperous again[/B].

This illustrates a bizarre feature of American fundie Christianity: they seem to think that being a good Christian ought to bring earthly rewards. And yet the NT is full of sayings attributed to Jesus which are against such an idea. Do they read the bloody thing, apart from Revelation and any anti-gay verses they can find?

[munnki]

Here's the whole 'speech'

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It's a nightmare of tautology, falseness, misunderstanding and foolishness all served up by an undereducated, misguided moron.

But that's just an objective view... mine would be unpublishable. I do like how the word 'Gaylord' is emblazoned across the podium. Ironic, in a way, given the Republican views on gayness.

[Haswell]

That's another thing Palin hasn't worked out. Suppose there is some Divine intervention; its not going to make for a secure and prosperous America is it?

[munnki]

What if it was an actual good divine intervention according to the Christian (not old testament) ethic? There wouldn't be a member of the GOP or their corporate sponsors left standing. I have to admit there wouldn't be many/any left in the Democrat camp either...but what the f£$k do these people suppose the Christian ethic to be? And how in the name of whatever deity you like did Reganomics fit in with Christianity? It was the economics of Get Rich or Die Tryin' and Forget Anybody Else. What absurdist notion of Jesus did that fit in with?

I hate these people. I can't wait for the revolution.

[Celsus]

I'm enjoying watching America kill itself through its own inventions like celebrity culture. The revenge of history could not be sweeter.

[Iblis waswas]

Obviously I can't say for sure as an outsider, but surely Palin has absolutely no chance of being the next president after Obama? I find it hard to believe she could get anywhere near the required votes.

[Matty]

cmon, Palin running for president would be FAR more watchable than Big Brother or American Idol..

can you imagine the speeches. lol/ :)

[DMB]

I can remember the incredulity with which I saw Reagan running for Governor of California, to say nothing of POTUS. :dunno:

[Haswell]

I'm enjoying watching America kill itself through its own inventions like celebrity culture. The revenge of history could not be sweeter.


I take it you are being tongue in cheek. I for one would not like to see the demise of that wonderful country. Perhaps putting the right wing Christians in their place would be sufficient. A new era of learning would do them more good than anything else.

[DMB]

Which side is Palin really batting for? See this article:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7017940.ece

Yet even as she was expressing solidarity with activists fighting against an “out-of-touch political establishment”, it emerged that she had agreed to campaign in Arizona next month for Senator John McCain, her former presidential running mate on the 2008 Republican ticket. McCain is facing a dangerous Senate re-election challenge from the former congressman JD Hayworth, a conservative darling of the Tea Party movement.

After months of acrimony between the McCain and Palin camps over who was more to blame for their defeat by Obama, Palin has evidently decided that the hatchet should be buried — and not in McCain’s back...

...The Texan tea set have also been stunned by Palin’s support for Governor Rick Perry, who is running for re-election this year. Perry is being challenged by Debra Medina, a former nurse and businesswoman and an early Tea Party campaigner.

“I can’t believe you are backing Perry,” said Christi Cameron, a Medina supporter. “Something is wrong.”

[Jet Black]

She is also, as I understand it, an "End Timer" which would suggest she is more concerned about Middle east politics than her own country.

As it stands, her only rivals would be Mike Huckabee, the loony minister and Mitt Romney, the Mormon. (I might have said Loony Mormon but that's redundant).

If she is the bast Republicans/ conservatives/ teabaggers can come up with then we are screwed.

If you needed further reason to discard her, remember that she is a Fox Noise contributor and getting tuition from, jesus fucking H. Christ, Glenn Beck and O'Reilly. Still you know what to expect from her when the likes of Limbaugh reckons her book was the most 'substantial political book' he had read.

She's a joke but if her opponents dont take her seriously, she just might get in somewhere via the back door. Id bet if she looked like Janet Reno, she'd not get half the publicity she gets. O'Reilly has the cheek to wonder why liberals are scared of her? We should all be terrified.

at the moment.... remember Obama came from almost nowhere to take the presidency.

[rog]

I's have thought a plain type presidency laughable not so long ago. Then Bush :(

[Ray Moscow]

I's have thought a plain type presidency laughable not so long ago. Then Bush :(

Yeah, 8 years of Dubya was a load of laughs, and we're no worse off, are we?

Are we?

Arghhhhh ....! :bang:

[Garnet]

Irony, thy name is Palin. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html)

[Free in Freeport]

Mumbling the old "what's the difference..." joke under my breath

[lpetrich]

So she's now a Benedicta Arnold who wants to become some Queen Georgina III.

To use some more American-Revolution analogies.

[Celsus]

Which side is Palin really batting for? See this article:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7017940.ece

Yet even as she was expressing solidarity with activists fighting against an “out-of-touch political establishment”, it emerged that she had agreed to campaign in Arizona next month for Senator John McCain, her former presidential running mate on the 2008 Republican ticket. McCain is facing a dangerous Senate re-election challenge from the former congressman JD Hayworth, a conservative darling of the Tea Party movement.

After months of acrimony between the McCain and Palin camps over who was more to blame for their defeat by Obama, Palin has evidently decided that the hatchet should be buried — and not in McCain’s back...

...The Texan tea set have also been stunned by Palin’s support for Governor Rick Perry, who is running for re-election this year. Perry is being challenged by Debra Medina, a former nurse and businesswoman and an early Tea Party campaigner.

“I can’t believe you are backing Perry,” said Christi Cameron, a Medina supporter. “Something is wrong.”
As I wrote at FRDB: If anything, she's doing the loyal thing and tipping her hat off to the guy who raised her to the national stage. She owes all of her political capital to him.

This is a ridiculous non-story.

[dug_down_deep]

I would love to see a Palin nomination in 2012. It would be a comedy goldmine. Please make this happen. I think progressives should organize their own Operation Chaos to make it happen.

[Daydream]

Palin quit being a governor. Wouldn't people have concerns about electing her for president if she is a quitter?

[dug_down_deep]

Palin quit being a governor. Wouldn't people have concerns about electing her for president if she is a quitter?
I don't think the people who would vote for her are really thinking that deeply.

[Master Taran]

I don't think the people who would vote for her are really thinking that deeply.Agreed. People that would vote for her exhibit the intelligence of a quarter pound of rock.

[Alethias]

Obviously I can't say for sure as an outsider, but surely Palin has absolutely no chance of being the next president after Obama? I find it hard to believe she could get anywhere near the required votes.She'll have a hard time getting the vote in 2012, but I think she stands a chance in 2016. She has a lot of charismatic appeal to all the god-fearing americans that don't think too deeply that are scared to death of obama, and there is a very large amount of very disaffected americans that are scared-to-death of obama right now. I think obama will get re-elected in 2012, and it'll be a close race between palin, huckabee and romney in 2016. I wouldn't be too surprised with a Huckabee/Palin ticket or a Romney/Palin ticket as Pres/VP in 2016.

[Haswell]

Huckabee/ Palin? For fuck's sake.

Will the last one to leave, kindly switch the light off?

[munnki]

What about a Palin/Beck Foxpublican ticket?

[sohy]

What about a Palin/Beck Foxpublican ticket?


You really hate us, don't you? :D

[munnki]

What about a Palin/Beck Foxpublican ticket?


You really hate us, don't you? :D

Not as much as god hates fags!
;)

[Ray Moscow]

The latest on Palin from Pharyngula:

Ms Palin, you fail (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/ms_palin_you_fail.php)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9719/cheaterpalin.jpg

She's got the whole world, in her hand ....

[Ray Moscow]

"Lift Americans
"Spirits"

was the prompt for:

Allowing America's spirit to rise again, by... not being afraid to go back to some of our roots as a God fearing nation, where we are not afraid to say, especially in times of trouble, we don't have all the answers as falible men and women, so it would be wise for us to start seeking some divine intervention again in this country, so that we can be safe and secure and prosperous again. To have people involved in Government who aren't afraid to go that route, who aren't afraid about the political correctness, that you know, they have to be afraid about what the media would say if they were to proclaim their reliance on our creator.

And people think she's stupid! How many here could say something like this? Few indeed.

[Haswell]

Her latest statement reckons "it would be absurd not to think of running in 2010".

Has anyone explained to this woman, the meaning of "absurd"?

[dug_down_deep]

This would just be pure goodness if I didn't think there was bound to be a beer summit follow-up.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, in a nod to former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, wrote a faux shopping list on his hand in dark pen Tuesday in response to reports over the weekend that Palin had written notes to herself during the Tea Party Convention this past weekend.

cspan gibbs hand 100209a White House press secretary writes grocery list on hand, mocks Palin
http://rawstory.com/2010/02/white-house-press-secretary-writes-shopping-list-hand-mocks-palin/
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2010/02/09/image6190895x.jpg

[Matt]

Fox is defending her crib notes. They believe it was a subtle poke at Obama's teleprompter usage.

Cognitive dissonance isn't always pretty.

(http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/08/fox-palin-telepalmer/)

[Haswell]

Does that woman know the meaning of "subtle"?

Face it Sarah, you got caught with your panties down.

[DMB]

Fox is defending her crib notes. They believe it was a subtle poke at Obama's teleprompter usage.

Cognitive dissonance isn't always pretty.

(http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/08/fox-palin-telepalmer/)

Palin doesn't do "subtle".

[Matty]

The latest on Palin from Pharyngula:

Ms Palin, you fail (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/ms_palin_you_fail.php)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9719/cheaterpalin.jpg

She's got the whole world, in her hand ....

top notch.

Man, next time I go off to give a talk, I'm going to get a sharpie and write "Science. Evolution. Anti-creationism." on my left hand, in case I get asked what I'm going to talk about. 'Cause I might forget, you know.

[munnki]

Let's be clear. Sarah Palin is not a failure. She is the result of a failure. This is way worse than her just being a failure. There's too many of her ilk for it to be a coincidence or for her to be an anomaly. Something has gotten seriously f£$ked up in Denmark and now we almost expect Palin-types to emerge and vomit their obvious, trite and wrong lives onto our shirts.

[Redshirt]

Obviously I can't say for sure as an outsider, but surely Palin has absolutely no chance of being the next president after Obama? I find it hard to believe she could get anywhere near the required votes.

Shrub. 2004. It can happen again.

[dug_down_deep]

Fox is defending her crib notes. They believe it was a subtle poke at Obama's teleprompter usage.

Cognitive dissonance isn't always pretty.

(http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/08/fox-palin-telepalmer/)
CARLSON: Nah, like I said, I think it was on purpose. But anyway, we we may never know.
Why? Because they know she will lie about it? Fox and Friends is about as retarded as Fox gets, next to Glenn Beck.

[dug_down_deep]

Obviously I can't say for sure as an outsider, but surely Palin has absolutely no chance of being the next president after Obama? I find it hard to believe she could get anywhere near the required votes.

Shrub. 2004. It can happen again.
I don't think so. There are just no parallels. Most people didn't know Bush was a moron. Obama probably won't get caught getting blowjobs from an intern, and the Democrats will be running Obama in 2012 and likely not an android in 2016. So no, I don't think so.

[sohy]

Palin only has a small group of supporters, but I think most of them live in my neighborhood. Just yesterday, I met one and her reasoning was that electing a smart man isn't working, so why not go for an stupid woman. Not her exact words, but pretty close. This same woman also told me that she has hope for America because the tea party is going to save us. I really like this person but wish I had never discovered how ignorant she is when it comes to politics.

What I have learned about the people where I live is that most of them get all of their news from Fox and they seem to believe every lie they hear on Fox. America is becoming an Orwellian cesspool.

[Ray Moscow]

For some incomprehensible reason, some people actually prefer their leaders to not be too bright. Some people trusted Bush for that very reason.

Maybe it comes back to Bertrand Russell's comment that many people assume a stupid man will be more honest than a clever one.

So, don't count Palin out just because she's dense. A lot of voters like that -- as one Republican convention delegate said in 2008, "She's just like my sister-in-law!".

Indeed, she is, only more so.

[sanshou]

*writes 'atheism' and 'pussy' on his palm*

[dug_down_deep]

Bush was folksy dumb. Palin is simply retarded. People get the difference. She already cost the Republicans one election, so I doubt they'll try her again.

[lpetrich]

For some incomprehensible reason, some people actually prefer their leaders to not be too bright. Some people trusted Bush for that very reason.

Maybe it comes back to Bertrand Russell's comment that many people assume a stupid man will be more honest than a clever one.
I think that they think that a stupid person will be less capable of tricking them.

Thus, they may think that GWB and Sarah Palin are less likely to trick them than Barack Obama.

This is not exactly a new campaign line. Back in the 1950's, Eisenhower's supporters insinuated that their opponent Adlai Stevenson was an "egghead", and therefore unfit for a leadership position.

Advancing to the late 1960's, George Wallace denounced "pointy-headed intellectuals".

[Notta]

I met a woman going to a Palin rally during the campaign who said, "Sarah Palin has five kids. I have five kids!! She knows what MY life is like, and that's why I'm voting for her!"

I should have taken a shovel to her head right then & there.

[dug_down_deep]

Ask her why Sarah won't show us Trey's birth certificate. Maybe that will bug her.

[dug_down_deep]

Poll Shows Palin’s Unfavorability Ratings At All-Time High As Broder Extols Her ‘Populist’ Appeal (http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/11/broder-palin/)

According to the new poll, 71 percent of Americans say that Palin is “not qualified to serve as president.” That figure includes 52 percent of Republicans.