View Full Version : Here's a little backsplash on Glenn Beck
Garnet
11 Mar 2010, 12:47 AM
I don't know how big a deal this is but I found it interesting.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-wallis/biblical-social-justice-a_b_493875.html
Glenn Beck says Christians should leave churches that use the word "social justice." He says social justice is a code word for communism and Nazism.
But since the Catholic Church, the Black Churches, the Mainline Protestant churches, more and more Evangelical and Pentecostal churches including Hispanic and Asian-American congregations all consider social justice central to biblical faith, Glenn Beck is telling all those Christians to leave their churches. Of course, Christians may disagree about what social justice means in our current political context -- and that conversation is an important one -- but the Bible is clear: from the Mosaic law of Jubilee, to the Hebrew prophets, to Jesus Christ, social justice is an integral part of God's plan for humanity.
So here's an idea: how about reporting ourselves to Glenn Beck as church members and pastors who practice and preach social justice.
Since Sojourners' mission is "to articulate the biblical call to social justice," I'll be the first to turn myself in. And I invite you to join me in turning yourself in to Glenn Beck as a Christian who believes in social justice. Let's send him thousands of names.
I wonder if this will gain any steam?
Is Glenn Beck's head permanently lodged in his fundament?
Febble
11 Mar 2010, 09:44 AM
He's right, actually. I remained a Christian for decades because I believed in social justice. Turns out I was an atheist all along....
Worldtraveller
11 Mar 2010, 12:22 PM
Beck is a Mor(m)on, isn't he? Could be he's looking for recruits.
Beck is a Mor(m)on, isn't he? Could be he's looking for recruits.
That proves where he keeps his head!
DrussTheLegend
11 Mar 2010, 07:17 PM
Beck is a Mor(m)on, isn't he? Could be he's looking for recruits.
this is no justice but God's justice. striving for social justice in the mean time is agood thing, i'm not so sure Beck is right. plus your right, he is a Mormon. Their message is only a severe twisting of true christian beliefs. it does not surprise me that he is telling people leave churches.
dug_down_deep
11 Mar 2010, 08:29 PM
Beck is self-destructing. Which is evidence there is a god.
Garnet
11 Mar 2010, 10:44 PM
Trip D, that's the strongest argument for existence of god I've ever read. If Beck really self destructs, I might just have to become a believer!
Jobar
12 Mar 2010, 12:35 AM
Beck is self-destructing. Which is evidence there is a god.
Maybe even a just god. :)
Politesse
12 Mar 2010, 01:48 AM
Glenn Beck is a parody of himself. The God he claims servitude to, of course, has much to say about those who forget the importance of social justice.
"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless. What will you do on the day of reckoning, when disaster comes from afar? To whom will you run for help? Who will live off your riches?"
Yahzi
12 Mar 2010, 04:31 AM
Glenn Beck is a parody of himself.
It's worse than that - he is a parody of himself from last week.
Seriously, he says things that contradict and mock stuff he said a week ago. He does it all the freakin' time.
sohy
12 Mar 2010, 01:01 PM
Here's one Xian response to Beck.
“What he has said attacks the very heart of our Christian faith, and Christians should no longer watch his show,” Mr. Wallis wrote on his blog, God’s Politics. “His show should now be in the same category as Howard Stern.”
In attacking churches that espouse social justice, Mr. Beck is taking on most mainline Protestant, Roman Catholic, black and Hispanic congregations in the country — not to mention plenty of evangelical churches and even his own, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Will the Xians listen to Beck and leave their churches or to their church leaders and stop watching Beck? I often think Beck just likes to push people's buttons for a drama reward.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/us/12justice.html?ref=us
dug_down_deep
12 Mar 2010, 01:06 PM
When I saw him starting to talk about God, I breathed a sigh of relief, because it will now be very difficult to achieve unity of vision. Religion is like football. Everyone has their own favorite team, and they're not going to put up with you telling them which one they should like.
Garnet
14 Mar 2010, 03:36 PM
From a blog on Time.com:
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/03/14/why-does-glenn-beck-hate-jesus/?xid=rss-topstories
When Glenn Beck told listeners of his radio show on March 2 that they should "run as fast as you can" from any church that preached "social or economic justice" because those were code words for Communism and Nazism, he probably thought he was tweaking a few crunchy religious liberals who didn't listen to the show anyway. Instead he managed to outrage Christians in most mainline Protestant denominations, African-American congregations, Hispanic churches, and Catholics--who first heard the term "social justice" in papal encyclicals and have a little something in their tradition called "Catholic social teaching." (Not to mention the teaching of a certain fellow from Nazareth who was always blathering on about justice...)
The comments on the story are..er..interesting. The effectiveness of the Conservative propaganda machine is certainly in evidence.
His Noodly Appendage
15 Mar 2010, 12:52 AM
Huh, huhuh. huhuhuhuh.
Back splash.
Garnet
16 Mar 2010, 10:56 PM
Jim Wallis, the founder of Sojouner's and the writer whose I article I quoted in the OP had this on the Huffington Post today:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-wallis/biblical-social-justice-a_b_493875.html
In essense, Jim Wallis has challenged Glenn Beck to have a discussion on what social justice in Christianity means:
In fact, on Friday, I sent Glenn a letter proposing that the two of us sit down together and have an open and public discussion on what social justice really means and how Christians are called to engage in the struggle for justice. I said, "let's make this a civil dialogue and not engage in personal attacks on each other -- which is never helpful in trying to sort out what is true. So let's talk about the heart of the matter."
Beck's response?
So Jim, I just wanted to pass this on to you. In my time I will respond -- my time, well, kind of like God's time, might be a day, might be a week to you, I'm not sure. But I'm going to get to it in my time, not your time. So you go ahead and you continue to do your protest thing, and that's great. I love it. But just know -- the hammer is coming, because little do you know, for eight weeks, we've been compiling information on you, your cute little organization, and all the other cute little people that are with you. And when the hammer comes, it's going to be hammering hard and all through the night, over and over...
All righty, then.
lpetrich
17 Mar 2010, 02:12 AM
Seems like Glenn Beck is trying to weasel out of meeting Jim Wallis.
And what is that hammer that he's talking about?
Is GB expecting his friends to take over, and then to send Jim Wallis and his friends to Alaskan prison camps? Complete with show trials with them being found guilty of being enemies of the American people.
His Noodly Appendage
17 Mar 2010, 02:27 AM
And when the hammer comes, it's going to be hammering hard and all through the night, over and over...
Homoerotic subtext much?
dug_down_deep
17 Mar 2010, 01:54 PM
When he bullies people, Glenn sounds very much like a mama's boy. I doubt he's actually gay...just bitchy.
That said, I am on the edge of my seat waiting for these two unauthorized biographies to come out.
Worldtraveller
17 Mar 2010, 02:41 PM
Next time we get a little backsplash on Beck, can we try to make sure there's some highly concentrated acid involved? :D
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