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Notta
27 Mar 2009, 12:10 PM
The Texas State Board of Education, voting on whether to include language in the state science standards about teaching evolution's "strengths and weaknesses" had a split 7-7 vote last night, effectively upholding an earlier ruling that would not insert such language into the standards.

More on the story here: (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/education/stories/032609dntexevolution.72be216f.html)

The tie vote upheld a preliminary decision by the board in January to delete the strengths-and-weaknesses rule in the new curriculum standards for science classes that will be in force for the next decade. That decision, if finalized in a last vote today, changes 20 years of Texas education policy.

Because the standards spell out what must be covered in textbooks, science educators and publishers have been monitoring the Texas debate closely. As one of the largest textbook purchasers in the nation, Texas influences what is sold in other states.

I liked this quote in the story:
Board member Ken Mercer, R-San Antonio, proposed that the rule be put back into the standards, arguing that evolution advocates were trying to stifle classroom discussion of Darwin's theory that humans gradually developed from lower life forms.

"I don't see how we can say there is no disagreement about evolution. There is disagreement," said Mercer, taking issue with science teachers and academics who told the board that the theory of evolution is universally accepted in the scientific community. He cited a document by hundreds of scientists questioning some of Darwin's tenets.

He also charged that evolution advocates have a history of falsifying evidence and drawing erroneous conclusions to support their position.

He sounds like Dave Hawkins, doesn't he?

DMB
27 Mar 2009, 12:23 PM
Someone should tell them about Project Steve if they're going to wave lists of "hundreds of scientists" around. And we all know which lists those probably are.

VoxRat
27 Mar 2009, 02:31 PM
Some bonehead Texas creationist:"I don't see how we can say there is no disagreement about evolution. There is disagreement," said Mercer, taking issue with science teachers and academics who told the board that the theory of evolution is universally accepted in the scientific community. He cited a document by hundreds of scientists questioning some of Darwin's tenets.Presumably the "document" he's citing is the Disco 'Tute's infamous "Scientific Dissent from Darwinism" (http://pigeonchess.com/2008/05/11/the-discovery-institutes-a-scientific-dissent-from-darwinism-list-examined/).

That just highlights how the whole anti-evolution strategy seems to have devolved into a never-ending spiral of equivocation. Much as the whole "teaching strengths and weaknesses" ploy is a scam to sneak creationist bullshit in under the cover of legitimate scholarly skepticism, that "document" says one thing that I (or Ken Miller, or Genie Scott) would have no trouble signing, but is used to justify creationist crap that is not even mentioned in the "document".

Masters of deceit, those creationists.

Mediancat
27 Mar 2009, 02:55 PM
Christosaurus: A Holocene-area dinosaur, colloquially known as the "Jesus dinosaur." Existence is disputed, as the only evidence is shadows of the dinosaur's figure on the cloth allegedly used to wrap the bones after discovery. Proponents argue that the reason the bones are no longer there is that the Christosaurus is actually a member of a "lazarus taxon."

The dispute continues.

Rob

Theropod
27 Mar 2009, 05:47 PM
Christosaurus: A Holocene-area dinosaur, colloquially known as the "Jesus dinosaur." Existence is disputed, as the only evidence is shadows of the dinosaur's figure on the cloth allegedly used to wrap the bones after discovery. Proponents argue that the reason the bones are no longer there is that the Christosaurus is actually a member of a "lazarus taxon."

The dispute continues.

Rob

See "pyrite disease". No miracles needed.

Christosaurs lazarusi vanished in the jackets before the lab could get to them. Hell, it happens all th time. :D

:evil:

RS