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DMB
03 Oct 2010, 12:12 PM
Cartoon by Martin Rowson. Seems to sum it up rather well.

http://www.secularism.org.uk/uploads/download-a-hi-res-version-of-enlightenment.jpg

Silly Sausage
03 Oct 2010, 04:07 PM
I love it :D

I've only been studying the Enlightenment for a couple of weeks now, but its been interesting finding out that the philosophes were standing against the Catholic church, which I didn't know before. From what I've read so far, it does indeed seem as though the leading figures were very much in favour of secularism and, of course, freethought.

Jet Black
03 Oct 2010, 06:07 PM
thank god I wasn't using my cellular data allowance for that image.

lpetrich
03 Oct 2010, 08:36 PM
What's the Pope trying to do in that cartoon? I can't quite figure it out.

In any case, the Pope certainly did a big turnaround. From

I find your lack of faith disturbing

to

You're almost more Catholic than I am

Jet Black
03 Oct 2010, 08:48 PM
What's the Pope trying to do in that cartoon? I can't quite figure it out.

In any case, the Pope certainly did a big turnaround. From

I find your lack of faith disturbing

to

You're almost more Catholic than I am

he is about to extinguish the flame of enlightenment. Though I think that it is a little bit wrong to have the enlightenment on a base of secularism.

DMB
04 Oct 2010, 05:00 AM
Yes. It's a little hard to see with all the black, but he's holding a candle snuffer. Could be a rather old technology for you, lpetrich! But I spent some of my early childhood in a house with no electricity where we used oil lamps and candles.