Summary of Catholic Sexual Ethics

[Aca]

http://www.catholicplanet.com/CCSE/catholic-sexual-ethics.htm

all you needed to know about what you can or can not do according to Catholic doctrine :p

as you can imagine, the list of allowed things is rather short :D

[Notta]

That guy's never going to accept a hand job ...

[Jack Willsson]

Does it include abusing children then?

[Berthold]

Perhaps the worst* part is:
F. All unnatural sexual acts, including oral, anal, and manual stimulation, whether partial or completed, even if used as so-called foreplay with the sexual act being completed in natural marital relations, even if used after natural marital relations to bring the woman to completion, even if preceded by, combined with, or followed by an act of natural marital relations, are nevertheless intrinsically disordered and always objectively gravely immoral.
*Not meaning to say that there are any good parts in this. :evil:

[Clivedurdle]

When was the Kama Sutra written? When was Joy of Sex published?

[Here Rests A Cemetery]

I saw "Catholic Sexual Ethics" in the thread title.

Then I proceeded to not take this thread seriously.

[David B]

I think that they should be taken very seriously, considering the damage done to people brought up to be True Believers, and the anguish they suffer as a result of feeling themselves to be in a state of mortal sin.

David

[DMB]

Perhaps the worst* part is:
F. All unnatural sexual acts, including oral, anal, and manual stimulation, whether partial or completed, even if used as so-called foreplay with the sexual act being completed in natural marital relations, even if used after natural marital relations to bring the woman to completion, even if preceded by, combined with, or followed by an act of natural marital relations, are nevertheless intrinsically disordered and always objectively gravely immoral.
*Not meaning to say that there are any good parts in this. :evil:

Whatever made you think that sex should be enjoyable for women? Why would a "celibate" male priesthood care about such a thing?

We know that the functions of women are
To tempt men (evil EVE. etc.)
To enable men to have sex without damaging their souls.
To give birth to lots of little Catholics.

[Clivedurdle]

To enable men to have sex without damaging their souls

Of course, women don't have souls and interestingly is sex enjoyable for anyone according to catholicism?

[Free in Freeport]

Do catholics ever ask why god made sex do damn fun if he doesn't intend folks to enjoy it? If we were intelligently designed, why don't couples procreate by, say, swallowing a few of each other's armpit hairs instead of fucking?

[Jack Willsson]

If run-of-the mill people didn't have something to feel guilty about the priests would be out of a job.

They can guarantee that we'll have a sex - drive so it's prime candidate for being something that we need "forgiving" for.

Mix in the fact that sex is driven by instincts (as opposed to reason) and pleasure and the "selling forgiveness" brigade is on a gravy train.

I wonder what the Catholic means by the word "Immoral". It doesn't seem to have anything to do with "All things therefore whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you, even so do ye also unto them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Matt 7:12)

[BioBeing]

If run-of-the mill people didn't have something to feel guilty about the priests would be out of a job.

They can guarantee that we'll have a sex - drive so it's prime candidate for being something that we need "forgiving" for.

Mix in the fact that sex is driven by instincts (as opposed to reason) and pleasure and the "selling forgiveness" brigade is on a gravy train.


This is exactly right. Make sex a sin, then sell them confession. It's the ultimate shill game.

[Notta]

It must be a sin if the woman has been through menopause, then, because it couldn't possibly result in a baby being born ...

[Berthold]

It must be a sin if the woman has been through menopause, then, because it couldn't possibly result in a baby being born ...
Oh no! :)
If the man or woman is infertile, the act is still natural if that act would be capable of procreation in fertile individuals.
Such texts have intricate details! :D

[Rie]

Who said the famous statement of Catholicism that "Every sperm is sacred."?

[Aca]

Who said the famous statement of Catholicism that "Every sperm is sacred."?

Monty Python

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:p

[Free in Freeport]

It can be summarized in 4 words:

Procreation good, pleasure bad.

[Rie]

Dunno Free. Catholic girls at University were regarded as good in bed and were sought after for sex.
I can understand this as we had repressed our lusts for so long that we were walking man traps that way!

[Haswell]

Why are so many elderly virgins completely obsessed with sex?

What's it to them what people do with their stinky bits?

[DMB]

Dunno Free. Catholic girls at University were regarded as good in bed and were sought after for sex.
I can understand this as we had repressed our lusts for so long that we were walking man traps that way!

Not just the girls. When I was young, I had serious offers from two Catholic seminarians. They knew I was an atheist too.

[Ozymandias]

I am not a Catholic (obviously) but I think I have pretty much adhered to their doctrine, albeit unintentionally. It do disagree with forcing it on people though, and especially the "intrinsically evil" part.

[Berthold]

Not just the girls. When I was young, I had serious offers from two Catholic seminarians. They knew I was an atheist too.
Then the sin isn't quite as bad as when seducing a Christian girl. :D

[Jack Willsson]

I am not a Catholic (obviously) but I think I have pretty much adhered to their doctrine, albeit unintentionally. It do disagree with forcing it on people though, and especially the "intrinsically evil" part.

As an eager young evangelical I mistakenly picked up a book which was pushing altruism. Not the sensible "selfish genes" kind of altruism but the sort that says that if we get any reward whatsover for our acts of kindness or charity, even getting pleasure from seeing the joy on the recipient's face, then there is no virtue in the kindness or charity.

Selflessness was the only valid state for virtuous actions and anything else was evil. Sounds as though I was reading a Catholic book :(

As we are animals and need to be motivated in order to act then the "intrinsically evil" makes some perverted sense. Nothing we do can be selfless.

[Berthold]

Not the sensible "selfish genes" kind of altruism but the sort that says that if we get any reward whatsover for our acts of kindness or charity, even getting pleasure from seeing the joy on the recipient's face, then there is no virtue in the kindness or charity.
Yeah, that perverse God (of the NT! :p ) allegedly hates people who are happy to give. He likes, instead, the offerings from the poor widow who half-starves herself in order to be able to give them.

[Jack Willsson]

Not the sensible "selfish genes" kind of altruism but the sort that says that if we get any reward whatsover for our acts of kindness or charity, even getting pleasure from seeing the joy on the recipient's face, then there is no virtue in the kindness or charity.
Yeah, that perverse God (of the NT! :p ) allegedly hates people who are happy to give. He likes, instead, the offerings from the poor widow who half-starves herself in order to be able to give them.

Hmmmm

[kennyc]

http://www.catholicplanet.com/CCSE/catholic-sexual-ethics.htm

all you needed to know about what you can or can not do according to Catholic doctrine :p

as you can imagine, the list of allowed things is rather short :D

Ah so Bill was right about Monica. :eek:

[kennyc]

Does it include abusing children then?

NOT a Sexual Act.

:eek: :dunno:

[Free in Freeport]

I wonder if the catholic church endorses slave rape. Why not? It's sanctioned throughout the bible.