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Old 01 May 2012, 02:32 AM   #360309 / #1
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Default Bill Nye Booed in Waco, Texas -- guess why

I'm ashamed of this, but I'll post it anyway. I grew up less than 50 miles from Waco.

http://www.thinkatheist.com/profiles...-in-texas-for/
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Old 01 May 2012, 02:58 AM   #360312 / #2
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Don't take it too hard. The news is a few years old.
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Old 01 May 2012, 03:24 AM   #360320 / #3
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I grew up less than 50 miles from Waco.
Were you there when the children of god died
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Old 01 May 2012, 11:39 AM   #360385 / #4
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I grew up less than 10 miles from Texas, let me tell you about Texans....
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Old 01 May 2012, 02:24 PM   #360431 / #5
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I remember when this story first came out.

People are stupid...texans are stupider.
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Old 01 May 2012, 02:55 PM   #360441 / #6
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Heh. Next science conference I go to, I'm going stand up at randomly innocuous moments, shout "We believe in God!", and storm out of the room.
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Old 01 May 2012, 06:35 PM   #360521 / #7
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Heh. Next science conference I go to, I'm going stand up at randomly innocuous moments, shout "We believe in God!", and storm out of the room.
Make sure it makes it to youtube, so we can all appreciate it....
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The Branch Davidians must have been responsible assuming they are still there....
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Old 02 May 2012, 01:14 PM   #360762 / #9
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I grew up less than 10 miles from Texas, let me tell you about Texans....
Hey, we're not ALL George W. fans. There's me, for instance...
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Old 02 May 2012, 01:45 PM   #360774 / #10
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I grew up less than 50 miles from Waco.
Were you there when the children of god died
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I think you must mean the Branch Davidians. The "Children of God" is another sect, based in California and with branches worldwide. Actually, "Branch Davidians" is a bit of a misnomer too; David Koresh's little bunch was not actually a part of that group, which is benign, nonviolent, and more associated with vegetarianism and organic farming, notably in Israel, than with firearms (which are forbidden to its members) and the like.

Anyway, to answer your question: No, I was even closer, about 30 miles away. My then-wife and I had a ranch in Coryell County, which is next to McLennan County, where Waco is situated.

But that travesty wasn't perpetrated by Texans. That was the FBI. The locals generally felt that Koresh and his group were harmless nutcases, would have remained harmless if simply left alone, and that the FBI raid was little short of outright mass murder. Later investigations into the tragedy seems to support those conclusions; Koresh was often seen in Waco businesses, for example, and could have easily been arrested without incident.

The main effect of the Waco raid was to give another talking point, and a very good one indeed, to rightwing nuts who claim that the Government is intent on taking away the rights of ordinary Americans. Me, I think it was just a huge bureaucratic clusterfuck, involving some trigger-happy and spotlight-seeking supervisors as well as some glaring tactical and strategic errors. It didn't have to end with 74 civilians, including 16 children under 10, being burned to death. That was entirely the fault of the FBI, who precipitated the tragedy and escalated it at every turn.
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I remember when this story first came out.

People are stupid...texans are stupider.
You know what will really make you feel like a Texan? This story actually came from 2006.
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I remember this story from years ago. It's not actually as random as it seems, because Nye explicitly cited the Bible as being wrong on this question. Of course if you go around quoting the Bible and then saying it's wrong, conservative religionists are likely to be offended. And further, I'd argue that there's no clear basis for saying the Bible is wrong in this case--the moon does give light, regardless of where that light originally comes from.
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